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Re: Looking for input and opinions...
Hi to all. I just wanted to get some input on a song we did yesterday. Please mind that there were clicks and mechanical noise added in the track every so couple of seconds, it will be easy to tell when it comes in. Just tryin to keep most imposters from direct samplin at bay. I am not sayin this is the ish or anything but just don't want people copyin styles. This is what I could get as far as general self mastering level. So after listenin could you let me know what you think the songs listenability and overall mix/level/pan balance is like to you. Much Appreciated.
Here is the link Song Sample1 ,Later -------------------- ~-Icemaster-~ Pentium4 (2.4Ghz) Windows XP Home Edition (SP1) 80GB HD 1GB Ram Digi002 Protools 6.9 |
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The parts came from Allen Amplification and replaced all the electrolytics, and the tubes were Svetlana 6L6GCs and 12AX7s are EH. Excellent service and instructions. I haven't tried cherry picking V1 (12AX7) yet from my bag of tubes. I was VERY surprised at the range of tones coming out of that Paul. 30 years of owning Les Pauls and who knew?? |
Re: Doc\'s new tunes
how too post a chune? can sombody help me?
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This one is now being called done as far as I am concerned. Should make the radio in a few weeks for the local licks that get played around here. PRetty cool tune. Great job Jason on the bass. Hope you like the mix.
Original Sin - Rothman Enjoy, I think that the bass really filled it out. - Doc |
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Here is my second ever mix. This is the follow up to the other track speechless. Same artist Lina Marie. All tracked and mixed by me. Let me know what u think feedback appreciated. The mix is not complete so far pretty much done with drums. Just workin on stringas guitar and vox now. Any tips appreciated.
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Charlie,
Thanks man! I will pass the words to him. These are the two that will be sent around if that helps you. I think that the mix in "Beautiful" will be tweeks some more. A little over compressed in the master, but we shall see. There are some tweeks that I would like to do with that tune and will probably get it back out. This one is definitely a brighter tune, and more "boppin" which the local radio station here loves. Should be a good one to heay on the waves. Thanks though... - Doc |
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Doc: check your e-mail when you get a chance man.
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btw... just noticed on your site you have Alex Bach listed under your links... small world. I auditioned as a freelance guitarist for her a few years back down in FL. Between her and her manager there is some great talent there. Did you get to record on her new record?
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No, I just think that she is HOT! :-) I found her somewhere and contacted her. Way cool girl. I got the e-mail. Will be in touch.
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alright man, chat ya via e-mail. peace
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Work in Progress
Frustrated with arrangement issues. I know this isn't a writing forum, but any thoughts on filling this in would be appreciated. Can't seem to do any (needed) lyric rewrites until all the parts are there, but I don't know what the parts will be. Organ? Choir? Full orchestra? ...rainstick? Sick to death of synths and MIDI and all that...craving authenticity. Like a howelling guitar solo or something. Frustrated.
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Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
please feel free to leave all feedback (constructive) both positive an neg. thanks!!!
http://www.myspace.com/beatdownboyz |
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I just put up 2 more samples:
08. Out Of The Blue (sample) 09. Crystal Clear (sample) check out the groove in Crystal Clear I am having alot of fun with this drummer. |
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whoehoe!
I`ve just discovered a great coorparation here! I started listening "out of the blue", while the "beat down boys" site opened... cause of the automatic start of the beatdown boys.. I thought,,, wow, this is great.. at first I didn`t even noticed I had 2 tracks playing together!! so... If I were you... I`d combine it... It was defenitly better this way!!! |
Please rate my first song if you have the time.
I have posted my first song to review on the internet and was hoping maybe some of you here might be interested in checking it out. Its a house tune just to let ya know. I Use PTs 001 and REASON. Please let me know how I can engineer it better and what you think of the composition in general. I'm willing to do a second version of this tune so have at it if you will. Thanks alot. Cut and paste this...
http://www.breakbeat-paradise.com/bb...p?trackid=1037 This site is cool because you can upload your tracks for free and have unlimited downloads. I have other DJ mixes there in the VISITOR WORKZ area if you are interested in House music. |
Doc\'s NEw Tunes - Baba G\'Nush
All,
Finished up a new band this week. Really happy with this overall demo. These guys are fired up. Very Faith No More, meets Red Hot Chili Peppers with a flare of Kid Rock, Mr. Bungle with a twist of 311. Very cool I think this is my best work yet sonically. Funq Liquor Ph Level It All Goes Away Write The Wrong Here was the chain that I used.... Drums: Kick - 421 - X73i Kick 2 - Subkick - 1272 Snare Top - SM57 - X73i Snare Bottom - SM57 - 1272 Toms - API 3124 +MB - submixed into one stereo track (roto toms too) Overheads - Oktava 012 - Trident 80B - Distressors Hi Hat - Oktava 012 - Trident S20 Guitars: Paul Reed Smith Fender Pro Sonic Marshall JCM 800 Mic'd Bogner Ubershcall cabinet with 421 and SM57 Bass: Mesa Boogie Bass Head - Direct out into 1176 Vocals - SM-7B - X73i - Distressor (love it!) Used outboard Lexicon PCM-90, Eventide Harmonizer and Digitech Tsr-24S Used True Verb and URS plugs solely. No compression or EQ on any guitars. Bass had 660 plug and URS A plug. Vocals RVox and some other tricks. 2 Tap delay in there too... Enjoy, - Doc |
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Doc/Chris,
Listening to 'Funq Liquor' now on the new Genelecs...sounds really good. Call me later...I have a few minor suggestions. Great job so far. -Roy |
Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
So here are my first two ProTools projects since getting my 002 one year ago... It took long enough!
Variation, Fixation, and Fantasy after a Prelude by Bach Sunrise from the Bottom of the Sea The first is a solo classical guitar piece, recorded in a beautiful, large stone vestibule. Me and a friend used a Baby Bottle and two KM 184s up close, and a pair of earthworks omnis for the room. It turned out ok- perhaps a bit too bright and electric sounding courtesy of the KM 184s. One day when I have some time I might remix it, but it serves its purpose as a demo for the time being... The second is a psychadelic, sort-of-prog-rock-fantasy for electric guitar and other instruments, based on Jimi Hendrix. It turned out ok for the most part, except I used a "sample" in the beginning from the Hendrix song 'Are You Experienced' that was sort of distorted (from the original album recording). I processed it a bit, and when working in the 24 bit domain it didn't bother me at all, but after dithering, and especially converting to mp3 for the web, the distortion became more noticeable. I don't know what to do about it at this point, but the good news is that it really only lasts for the first minute or so. I perceive it as a sort of harsh edginess to the sound, nothing too terrible, but kind of annoying... All other instruments were recorded with either a 414 or pair of KM 184s. The guitar is a '67 Gretsch Tennessean through a Vox Tonelab SE. Not exactly a Strat through a Marshall, and the country twang comes through every now and then, but it's all I got! Anyway, should anybody ever care to offer their $.02, I'm always open to suggestions, criticisms, etc... Peace, Andrew |
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Jack Rabbit...really nice....I do hear some 'howelling' licks, and maybe some mandolin too. Give me a little while to finish setting up my studio, and I'll try to send you something. -Roy |
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CHEEZGRITS.....'What happens in Atlanta...stays in Atlanta...'... ...love it...killer bass and kick...nice job. -Roy |
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TBR - Another one
Alright,
Here is the first ROUGH mix of the song with vocals. Used the TLM-103 into the X73i. Added Compression in Pro Tools instead of writing it to tape this time. Guitars were tracked using the Apex 435's into the X73i's and the TLM-103 into the API - 1176 right at the sound hole. Really like the guitar sounds I got on this. Taylor 614 with Martin Bronze strings. I gave her a CD with her 5 songs to take on her vacation to sing to. Figured it would help her out some. I think that this is pretty good, could be better and probably expect her to retake it next week. Pretty cool version though. The other song "Completely" is hers and I used the APEX 460 on her. I think that she will want to retake this one. She hates to record vocals afterwards as she usually sings and plays. Not bad though. Jen Mitchie - If You Could Only See - Tonic cover Jen Mitchie - Completely - Original I think that she is holding back some. We shall see if she wants to do it again. Thanks, - Doc |
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Hey Doc, couple things on this one man.
1. I don't know if it is her bronze strings, the thickness of the pick she uses, or just the way she plays, but "If you could only see" came out a tad electronic if I may describe it that way like she plugged into a Direct Box and was getting more DB than mic on this one somehow. If she does the guitars again I might try doing a 45 degree off axis placement for one of the 435's to avoid the percussiveness of her playing just a little bit maybe.. Just needs a bit of warming up a little maybe with some tubes, air, or farther back mic placement or something like that to it in a way. Otherwise, guitars were a good capture but she is playing tense sorta... 2. I agree that she is holding back on her vocals. She sounds like she has a much wider range, but I would suggest that you might want to try to coach her to open up a little bit. She sounds like she is nervous in a way like she is trying to purposly sing low and slightly out of her range. With folks like this, usually they have to let go of inhibitions to reach their full potentials.. Maybe putting her in a room by herself when she sings/plays so noone can see her or if you have light dimmers or something might help in this case possibly... she also sounds like she is rushing the lines in IYCOS slightly caus of the nervous thing maybe... Couldn't get the other track to open up as a wav unfortunately to check it out man.. something about it didn't have a codec when I tried to open it in my Winamp. Sorry to rip her man, but I gotta be honest with my opinion on her that you are doing an excellent job engineering for what you have to work with on this one. She definately has potential, but needs to open up a bit more IMHO... Hope all is cool. peace |
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Interesting.... The guitars are all mic's. No direct at all. I did however throw a cool effect WAT LOW in the mix through the eventide that you are probably hearing. Doubled the strum track and basically set the faders to pre so the effect only is present. Way low though so it is hard to hear. The Body mic was off axis as was the TLM-103 too. I agree that she was holding back like crazy. I will put the other "completely" file up. For some reason that ripped as a WAV instead of an MP3. I will fix it when I get home though.
Thanks, Doc Listen to the the stuff in the monitors as I really liked the guitar sounds. It was her first week on Martins though. She usually plays Elixirs (crap) and I told her that she wanted medium strings for recording. Better sound. Doc |
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Doc: yeah, might be the effect that I am hearing on there or the fact that she is new with those type of strings.. They just sound really bright and electronic in a way like they need to set in for about a week on that guitar first or something.. I agree about the Elixir strings being crap man.. cool about the other track, I will give it a listen when ya post it man. I will take this one home and give it a listen whenever I get done with moving this week. Got the keys to the new place today so I have to re-setup the studio out of boxes and what not before I can listen on proper monitors which might help also..
Of course, I am still referencing everything that you do now in comparison to the Rothman Beautiful track man... I still say that is the best acoustic work to date between playing and engineering man.. hehe If she is using a thin pick on the track also, a medium might bring out more mid definition to fill out the sound slightly also. Have a good weekend man! peace |
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Super7, Finally got a chance to listen....heard 'out of the blue' and 'crystal clear'. Nice job on both...really like the stereo tremelo guit intro sound on 'blue' and the wah solo sound on 'crystal'... sounding good...post more when you get a chance. -Roy |
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Thanks for taking the time to share your impressions. If you happen to catch this post, I was wondering if you could elaborate on what you mean by being "not consistent tonally." Are you referring to the recording quality, aspects of performance, or composition? I ran into some recording problems with this piece... Namely, in the second section after the prelude (3'11" into the piece), i strike the strings with my thumb back near the bridge for a percussive effect. Unfortunately, this came out sounding way too loud on the finished recording. There is too much bass and it also sounds like it is in a different space altogether, which makes this part of the piece fare a bit worse than the rest... It sounds unnatural. When mixing I tried to EQ it out, but this changed the quality of the bass strings too much (which I happen to really like) throughout the rest of the recording. i also tried some light compression, but this too altered the sound of the guitar to a point i found less desireable. The thing that worked best was to automate a plug-in compressor and EQ to kick in in the percussive parts, but I could always here a quiet 'click' when the plug-in came in and out, so i ended up not using it. The only other thing i haven't tried is using a multi-band compressor... If anybody else has any ideas of things I could try, I'd love to hear about it... Anyway, Rob, i wonder if this is on par with what you're hearing? This is my main point of contention with this mix, aside from some performance issues Ultimately, I think the best way to avoid this problem would have been to move the close mics (in this case, the KM 184's) back 8-12 inches, as they were the ones that picked up this signal the strongest. Oh well, I'll try that next time- I guess this time around was just a lesson in school of hard knocks Cheers, Andrew |
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Hi everyone,
My friend and I just started a comedy project. Here's a link to our latest live recording (recorded through my mbox). It is rather rough, i hope to do a studio remix soon with a full orchestra. http://dw.com.com/redir?&destUrl=htt...erId=100731706 FYI - Our influences are Stephen Lynch and Tenacious D, hopefully this won't offend anyone. Any comments, good or bad, are appreciated |
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I will try to tweak the threshold a bit more should I get around to remixing it... Perhaps the "thinning out" you described that happens early on is an issue with some editing not sure! Anyway, I'm sure i could probably mix it better. Like most things, I find that mixing can often be better if you take some time away from the project and come back to it after a while with a fresh set of ears and a more objective emotional perspective on one's performance... i'd like to EQ some of those "electric" sounding mid-high/high frequencies out of the km 184's as well... To answer your last question, the KM 184's were set up in a L/R pattern- the left mic was about 12" away, pointed at a 45 degree angle (inward) at the bridge. The right mic was the same distance, pointed off-axis at 45 degrees (inward) toward the 12th fret of the guitar. The Earthworks omnis (a matched pair of QTC 40's? forgive me if I have the exact model number wrong!) were about six feet away, pointed in a straight a/b (?) pattern about three feet right/left from the center of the guitar, at a height of about 5-6 feet. i can't remember exactly, but I think this is about right. Anyway, thanks again for your insight! Best, Andrew |
Re: Work in Progress
Hey Jack Rabbit,
Are you looking for recorded 'ideas' or just verbal ones? If it is the former, is there a way I could get a copy of the song? It just plays on that web link and I don't know how to save the file from that type of setup. Also, just to help me out, what key is the song in? Thanks! |
Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
Hello there,
here's some tracks i done using the old faithful digi001 with a handfull of plugins. Try and download the continuous mp3 - all the tunes back to back the way they should be, if you got a fast net connection www.councilflat.com |
Re: Work in Progress
Ok. Here's a link to myspace where I have some of the stuff I have worked on recently. It's all other people's music however I did program the drums on some of them. http://www.myspace.com/macr0wstudio
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macrOw: Cripple Creek sounded pretty good man. Couldn't listen to much more as my speakers at work are giving me trouble this morning here... had a nice old time jamboree type feel to it which was cool though.
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Yeah, thanks for that you know I recorded that in my room with 1 microphone. An akg 414b-uls set to omni. 2 guitars, 1 banjo, 1 violin, 1 mandolin and an electric bass guitar thru a small practice amp. They all just crowded around the mic and would lean in for a solo. I have about 10 songs they did for a demo. Which they did every song in 1 take every take was a keeper. I think we did all 10 songs in about 2.5 hours.
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nice man! tis always great when you have folks that know how to work with a mic to the advantage like that. The technique certainly has a great sound for the style of music.
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Hello all,
It's brand new song from Frozenbones project called "Plastic Roots"... this is the phase to critic and help us with fresh ears to make it better. Follow the link below and scoll down to find the tune. http://www.freewebs.com/fracturecomposer/mp3s.htm Enjoy Thanks for listening. -Frozenbones! |
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Spirithunter: nice job on the track. Reminds me heavily of Alice In Chains type influences meets like a slight Marylin Manson metal twist in parts...
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