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TheChimp 12-20-2013 06:22 PM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
The Chimp is still at Avid! I don't get to the DUC much these days, but I just wanted to say hi to you guys. Good to see the community is still thriving!

Sorry we had to drop the control window in PT 11...please know that WE know that the #1 idea for Eleven Rack on Ideascale is a standalone editor for Mac and Windows...and there are still people at Avid who care about Eleven Rack.

Enjoy NAMM, if you happen to go!

-Chimp

kelco83 12-20-2013 06:28 PM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
I'm glad I waited on purchasing 11, 10 is fine, but no gui is a reason to not upgrade in my situation.

It would be cool to have pt 11 features, but the eleven rack's full functionality is more valuable to me as a recording guitarist than 64 bit or offline bounce is.

I'm sure other studio techs don't care about the rack and absolutely love offline bounce.

nst7 12-20-2013 08:09 PM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChimp (Post 2113597)
The Chimp is still at Avid! I don't get to the DUC much these days, but I just wanted to say hi to you guys. Good to see the community is still thriving!

Sorry we had to drop the control window in PT 11...please know that WE know that the #1 idea for Eleven Rack on Ideascale is a standalone editor for Mac and Windows...and there are still people at Avid who care about Eleven Rack.

Enjoy NAMM, if you happen to go!

-Chimp

Nice of you to drop by! The fact that you mentioned NAMM...Is that a subtle hint that there might be something new or updated in the world of guitar products?

musicman691 12-21-2013 03:34 AM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChimp (Post 2113597)
The Chimp is still at Avid! I don't get to the DUC much these days, but I just wanted to say hi to you guys. Good to see the community is still thriving!

Sorry we had to drop the control window in PT 11...please know that WE know that the #1 idea for Eleven Rack on Ideascale is a standalone editor for Mac and Windows...and there are still people at Avid who care about Eleven Rack.

Enjoy NAMM, if you happen to go!

-Chimp

Thanks for dropping by. Going from what you say here about dropping the control window in PT11 - does that mean it will never come back in PT11? And further - why DID the control window have to be dropped? Not being sarcastic - inquiring minds want to know.

Have a safe Holidays!

Righty27 12-21-2013 11:28 AM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musicman691 (Post 2113697)
Thanks for dropping by. Going from what you say here about dropping the control window in PT11 - does that mean it will never come back in PT11? And further - why DID the control window have to be dropped? Not being sarcastic - inquiring minds want to know.

Have a safe Holidays!

If I recall correctly, we only found out that this had been dropped when PT11 was released, but wasn't there a promise at the time that it would be brought back later (probably in a 'dot release' version)? Surely, this would have enticed 11R users to PT11? Hopefully, The Chimp is hinting at a late Christmas present at NAMM! :)

guitardom 12-21-2013 12:14 PM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Righty27 (Post 2113800)
If I recall correctly, we only found out that this had been dropped when PT11 was released, but wasn't there a promise at the time that it would be brought back later (probably in a 'dot release' version)? Surely, this would have enticed 11R users to PT11? Hopefully, The Chimp is hinting at a late Christmas present at NAMM! :)

We were told well before 11 released that the control window would not be present in 11 till a later update.

Righty27 12-21-2013 12:24 PM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guitardom (Post 2113813)
We were told well before 11 released that the control window would not be present in 11 till a later update.

Thanks guitardom - that's what I thought i.e. Avid stated that it would come. So they must have determined that it was do-able (not just from a technical standpoint) and took a business decision to develop it.

musicman691 12-22-2013 04:28 AM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guitardom (Post 2113813)
We were told well before 11 released that the control window would not be present in 11 till a later update.

I know that but I'm wondering if things have changed in the meantime and Avid's software geeks found something out that it can't be done? I'm saying that in light of what The Chimp wrote here. He said that they were sorry they had to drop the control window and were cognizant of the fact a standalone editor was the #1 thing on Ideascale. It doesn't take a psychic reading the tea leaves to take that as the control window won't be showing up in PT11 and that if anything there will be a standalone editor for the 11R instead.

Darryl Ramm 12-22-2013 09:28 AM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musicman691 (Post 2113984)
I know that but I'm wondering if things have changed in the meantime and Avid's software geeks found something out that it can't be done? I'm saying that in light of what The Chimp wrote here. He said that they were sorry they had to drop the control window and were cognizant of the fact a standalone editor was the #1 thing on Ideascale. It doesn't take a psychic reading the tea leaves to take that as the control window won't be showing up in PT11 and that if anything there will be a standalone editor for the 11R instead.


"Can't be done" would be hard to fathom, if just staying with support within Pro Tools only then there is not much "there there" in the Eleven Rack GUI. It is just some very simple in concept plugins talking midi control over USB to the Eleven Rack box. And the Basic GUI stuff for AAX is clearly well shaken out. But there are lots of little bits to do and if it was being done by say a contractor new to this then it might well take time.

I would be careful reading tea leaves from primates, but OTOH if Avid bit the bullet and decided to do a full stand alone editor then they have the choice of writing that in AAX and shipping with a stand-alone AAX runtime (maybe using bits they already have from the SDK?) or rewriting a GUI completely outside of AAX or maybe using just bits of the AAX GUI code--to help with cross platform portability. It could well take time to shake that extra stuff out and get it shippable. And if you do a stand alone editor do you also do an editor that will run inside Pro Tools to cleanly handle things like track embedding. Maybe that leads you to want to do an AAX-64 port that can run as a plugin or stand-alone in a separate AAX runtime or need hooks in Pro Tools or a plugin in Pro Tools to handle that communication with a stand alone GUI.

Ah idle speculation.... personally I am beyond really worrying, the Eleven Rack works great for what I need and I barely use the GUI. If something happens there then I will be pleasantly surprised.

kelco83 12-22-2013 09:34 AM

Re: Eleven Rack GUI in PT11
 
Standalone editor probably won't let me embed rigs into the tracks right? Not completely ideal.


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