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kw88keys 04-17-2021 07:24 PM

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

Curious if anyone is using this processor on their PC? Or any comments or insights as to recommended alternatives.
Thanks

EGS 04-17-2021 08:55 PM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kw88keys (Post 2599874)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

Curious if anyone is using this processor on their PC? Or any comments or insights as to recommended alternatives.
Thanks

Great question. I'm planning to do a MB/CPU/ram upgrade fairly soon, and am considering an Intel i9-10900k/Z490 or i9-11900k/Z590. I'm also curious about that AMD chip. Anybody?

regan10 04-18-2021 12:42 PM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kw88keys (Post 2599874)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

Curious if anyone is using this processor on their PC? Or any comments or insights as to recommended alternatives.
Thanks

I use it, I'm getting CPU overload problems due to high sample rates (anything above 1024 samples) but it works perfectly fine with other DAWs.

EGS 04-19-2021 04:45 AM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
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Originally Posted by regan10 (Post 2599928)
I use it, I'm getting CPU overload problems due to high sample rates (anything above 1024 samples) but it works perfectly fine with other DAWs.

Please clarify. High sample rates or high buffer?

blizzard 05-13-2021 01:53 PM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
I did a bit of looking into the 11900k and was shown this review, which is not favourable (an understatement). I am reconsidering using it in my upcoming build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxiuvQPL_qs

I am now looking at a possible Ryzen build using the 5900x. Did you end up going for the 5900x?

kw88keys 05-13-2021 11:35 PM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
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Originally Posted by blizzard (Post 2601997)
I did a bit of looking into the 11900k and was shown this review, which is not favourable (an understatement). I am reconsidering using it in my upcoming build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxiuvQPL_qs

I am now looking at a possible Ryzen build using the 5900x. Did you end up going for the 5900x?

No, still in the planning phase for the next computer. I'm still using this: AMD|PH II X6 1090T 3.2G AM3 RT from 2010. I have not had any problems with this processor - but with more VIs needing more processing power, I am curious to see how the current processors on the market would be a benefit.

polyh3dron 05-20-2021 01:03 PM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by regan10 (Post 2599928)
I use it, I'm getting CPU overload problems due to high sample rates (anything above 1024 samples) but it works perfectly fine with other DAWs.

1024 samples isn't a sample rate. I take it you're referring to your playback engine buffer, and a higher buffer should result in more reliable playback.

My main Pro Tools system has a Ryzen 5950X CPU in it. I run Process Lasso and make sure to disable SMT aka hyperthreading in Pro Tools using that app, and my performance is solid. Did a feature documentary mix and some reality show mixes on it with very high track and voice counts, with dense automation all over the place. Unfortunately for any bigger post projects of a collaborative nature, the lack of Spanner really stops Windows from being viable still. Hoping Cargo Cult and/or Avid do something about this soon.

At this point with the recent versions of Pro Tools I'm almost thinking the SMT disabling thing may even be a legacy/superstition kind of thing that I may be able to get away with re-enabling, but haven't tried that under any serious kind of workload yet.

One thing that is vital in Windows 10 is to get your system's DPC latency under control. The free Resplendence LatencyMon Home Edition will help with this.

RyanC 05-22-2021 05:28 AM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
I have a 5950x rig. ProArt Creator b550, with HDSPe MADI in a TB/PCIe chassis (node 2 duo)- also used with Quantum.

These processors are incredible for audio, particularly for low latency audio (provided the rest of the system works properly). I can have a huge session, with a ton of VI's and track a full 16 mics on a drum set, with lots of inserts and heavy send FX like abbey road plates etc AND arm Diva and record along with the drums at the 32 sample buffer. In fact, I have never changed the buffer setting from 32.

I did have a chance to compare to M1 MBP (same interface), which is also better than intel in low latency performance, and for single core low latency (using reaper for both, only one channel loaded, FF Pro-R AS Native), the 5950x is capable of roughly double the instances as the M1. M1 capable of roughly 50% more than 7980xe- all at the 32 sample buffer. The differences between all 3 get smaller as the buffer sizes go up, but the 5950x leads all the way.

For me this is the native HDX killer. I'm finally back to that TDM workflow (arm any track at any time without thinking about latency), but without being tied to AAX-DSP plugins only (or PT only) and having that horsepower for VI's as well.

Brandonx1 05-26-2021 08:12 AM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
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Originally Posted by RyanC (Post 2602614)
I have a 5950x rig. ProArt Creator b550, with HDSPe MADI in a TB/PCIe chassis (node 2 duo)- also used with Quantum.

These processors are incredible for audio, particularly for low latency audio (provided the rest of the system works properly). I can have a huge session, with a ton of VI's and track a full 16 mics on a drum set, with lots of inserts and heavy send FX like abbey road plates etc AND arm Diva and record along with the drums at the 32 sample buffer. In fact, I have never changed the buffer setting from 32.

I did have a chance to compare to M1 MBP (same interface), which is also better than intel in low latency performance, and for single core low latency (using reaper for both, only one channel loaded, FF Pro-R AS Native), the 5950x is capable of roughly double the instances as the M1. M1 capable of roughly 50% more than 7980xe- all at the 32 sample buffer. The differences between all 3 get smaller as the buffer sizes go up, but the 5950x leads all the way.

For me this is the native HDX killer. I'm finally back to that TDM workflow (arm any track at any time without thinking about latency), but without being tied to AAX-DSP plugins only (or PT only) and having that horsepower for VI's as well.

I have always read that AMD have a latency problem. I actually use a threadripper myself and can't do much under 256 samples at any workload.

Is it really true that the 5950x can run at 32 samples? Can anyone else confirm?

RyanC 05-29-2021 02:34 PM

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
 
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Originally Posted by Brandonx1 (Post 2602898)
I have always read that AMD have a latency problem. I actually use a threadripper myself and can't do much under 256 samples at any workload.

Is it really true that the 5950x can run at 32 samples? Can anyone else confirm?

TR has the NUMA problem I believe.

I'll make a video here when I get a chance- I can make 32 mono tracks, each with Pro-Q3, Pro-C2, Softube Console1 and Arturia STA as well as 10 tracks of diva at the default preset, all with two sends to abbey road plates and arturia plate, arm all 42 tracks and record on all of them (playing on the keyboard to max out all 60 Diva voices) at the 32 sample buffer.

I have never had the need to raise the buffer above 32...


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