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ReynaldoPena 01-16-2023 01:28 PM

Compact Control Surface
 
Any recommendations for a control surface that’s compact with pre roll and post roll buttons? Budget is $200

JCBigler 01-16-2023 06:05 PM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
I don’t think are any control surfaces left in that price range. The Behringer X Touch surfaces are a bit over $400.

Ben Jenssen 01-16-2023 10:04 PM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynaldoPena (Post 2659011)
Any recommendations for a control surface that’s compact with pre roll and post roll buttons? Budget is $200

I know many like the Faderport.
I don't know how it integrates w/PT (HUI?).

FaderPort - PreSonus

JCBigler 01-17-2023 01:05 AM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen (Post 2659046)
I know many like the Faderport.
I don't know how it integrates w/PT (HUI?).

FaderPort - PreSonus

Unless they are Eucon controllers, they’re all HUI controllers. And the Eucon controllers start at about $1200.

Ben Jenssen 01-17-2023 01:28 AM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCBigler (Post 2659051)
Unless they are Eucon controllers, they’re all HUI controllers. And the Eucon controllers start at about $1200.

Yes. Eucon is pretty much king for PT from now on. As I understand it, not even the old Command|8 (midi protocol) will work on future versions of PT, at least not on Apple silicon.

I used C|8 for a couple of years, and it worked very well w/PT. Got it for $130. I have the Artist Mix now (Eucon), and I'm loving it. So much that I just bought a second one, second hand, $400, for a total of 16 faders.

But on windows, and macOS up to current, C|8 will work pretty good - and, I expect, a lot of other types of non-HUI, midi-protocol controllers.

BTW, I did try a Faderport 16 about a year ago (HUI), and the integration w/PT was horrendous, track names abbreviated to four(!) characters, only four plugin parameters visible at a time etc. All limitations of the HUI protocol, which I'm told is basically nineties-technology.

But that doesn't mean that the one-fader Faderport (sub $200) won't suit the OP's needs. Maybe Dave/Albee will chime in, he's recommended it before.

JCBigler 01-17-2023 01:59 PM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
I have n Artist mix also and like it very much. I use it mainly for my remote recording gigs. I have have a Yamaha DM2000 which runs on HUI which I like a lot also.

albee1952 01-18-2023 12:00 PM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
Indeed, the little Faderport V2 works rather nicely(even better with neyrinck's V-Control software), but I don't think any of the mentioned hardware allows for pre/post roll enable. But I do think Avid Control on a tablet can do it:o

JFreak 01-18-2023 01:10 PM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen (Post 2659053)
I used C|8 for a couple of years, and it worked very well w/PT. Got it for $130.

Bought C|8 the day one it became available. Great unit.

Don't say anything about prices, but I have spent more for flight case, couple of fader changes, and a spare power supply than the initial purchase price. Still, one of the best value hardware ever. That thing has seen hundreds of live gigs, money very well spent.

James Steele 01-18-2023 09:49 PM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCBigler (Post 2659051)
Unless they are Eucon controllers, they’re all HUI controllers. And the Eucon controllers start at about $1200.

If you're okay with using the Artist Mix or Control (or even the older Euphonix branded units before Avid acquired Euphonix), then you can get a pretty clean specimen of either unit for about $300 today... especially the Euphonix ones.

I have a Euphonix MC Control and MC Mix and with latest Avid firmware and EuControl software and they're working great with my M1 Max Mac Studio and PT 2022.12 and other DAWs as well.

bakerja 03-21-2023 10:05 AM

Re: Compact Control Surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by albee1952 (Post 2659206)
Indeed, the little Faderport V2 works rather nicely(even better with neyrinck's V-Control software), but I don't think any of the mentioned hardware allows for pre/post roll enable. But I do think Avid Control on a tablet can do it:o

I ordered Faderport V2 and will buy neyrinck's v-control as well. The video of V-control sold me. While the software is not cheap, $200 for V-control or $50 per year. That with $200 for the faderport and it gets a poor man close to an AVID dock.

It works very well with AVID control on my iPad also.

I hope that will hold my interest until I can justify AVID dock with S1.

Thanks,
jab


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