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TheMightyQuinn 05-14-2023 02:06 PM

Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Anyone running an OMNI / HDX setup using Sonarworks 4 who knows how to setup Reference 4 Measure?

For the life of me I cannot setup Measure to output through the OMNI. I can get input to / using channel one, but none of the options being listed in the output menu in the Measure pull down outputs sound. I would guess that the OMNI should be listed here, but nothing I have tried will provide that choice.

I contacted Sonarworks Support and got back a rather vague reply saying, "Avid hardware can be a bit tricky that way, I can recommend checking that your interface is currently not reserved for/being hijacked by Pro Tools when trying to use the Measure app." I not sure what, "reserved" means or how to un-reserve.

I've tried running Measure without opening ProTools, as we'll as after opening Protools.

I understand that Reference 4 is not the latest version, but I have made this work once in the past a few years ago, but recently moved and wanted to run new calibrations. My setup is largely unchanged from my last run, so I obviously figured it out back then or it just worked. I honestly can't remember.

In advance, any assistance will be appreciated.

massivekerry 05-14-2023 04:20 PM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
I think you need to not have Pro Tools open, and you need to (shoot, it's been awhile at this point) set the card/Omni so that CoreAudio is using it as an I/O in the Mac Sound Preferences. I forget what the exact terminology is, but It won't do that with Pro Tools running.

TheMightyQuinn 05-16-2023 06:31 PM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by massivekerry (Post 2670917)
I think you need to not have Pro Tools open, and you need to (shoot, it's been awhile at this point) set the card/Omni so that CoreAudio is using it as an I/O in the Mac Sound Preferences. I forget what the exact terminology is, but It won't do that with Pro Tools running.

Thanks, Kerry!

Still no go here. Tried looking into your recommendation here as well as trying everything else I can think of. Nothing.

Frustrating that no one seems to know what it takes to use this software - especially saddening that Sonarworks can't give more than just a passing 'shoulder shrug' supporting their own software. It's not like Pro Tools is some unknown DAW used by nearly no one. Even more saddening that I can't remember at all what I had done to get Measure working when last used. Sigh...

massivekerry 05-16-2023 07:42 PM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMightyQuinn (Post 2671058)
Thanks, Kerry!

Still no go here. Tried looking into your recommendation here as well as trying everything else I can think of. Nothing.

Frustrating that no one seems to know what it takes to use this software - especially saddening that Sonarworks can't give more than just a passing 'shoulder shrug' supporting their own software. It's not like Pro Tools is some unknown DAW used by nearly no one. Even more saddening that I can't remember at all what I had done to get Measure working when last used. Sigh...

Yeah, the level of cluelessness in support that appeared at Sonarworks when they rebranded as SoundID has not been comforting.

I had an HD native and HD IO, previously (Team Carbon since January) and I recall setting up a CoreAudio device (but I don’t recall the nomenclature) for it and running the Reference Measure app standalone to capurture the EQ profile without issue, but it’s been a few years. (Carbon works differently). I do think you have to have CoreAudio things for the Inputs and Outputs, and the system has to be assigned to use both…?

albee1952 05-17-2023 12:24 PM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Hmmm, A couple of things to remember:
1-try doing the measurement at 44.1K(I remember that was a "must" back when I bought my version 4 package)
2-do NOT have Pro Tools open
3-unless you are measuring more than stereo, you can do the measurement with any interface. My 003 would not work, but I borrowed a friend's little Behringer USB interface and the entire process went thru without a hitch.

Will Russell 05-18-2023 03:24 AM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
You may have done this already, but I would first make sure the ProTools is actually quit. Then I would go into your Mac system preferences under the sound pane and select your omni as your Mac input and output. I do also remember that the sample rate I think was limited to 44.1.

Hope this helps!

TheMightyQuinn 05-18-2023 08:29 AM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Russell (Post 2671166)
You may have done this already, but I would first make sure the ProTools is actually quit. Then I would go into your Mac system preferences under the sound pane and select your omni as your Mac input and output. I do also remember that the sample rate I think was limited to 44.1.

Hope this helps!

Hi Will,

My ONMI is not an output option in my Mac's System Preference Sound settings.

Thx!

TheMightyQuinn 05-18-2023 08:31 AM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Hello,

After employing a 3rd party interface and abandoning my AVID hardware for this purpose, I've been able to successfully run calibrations.

Thanks for all of the replies here! Much appreciated.

~ Greg

originalscottyg 05-18-2023 09:35 AM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMightyQuinn (Post 2671184)
Hi Will,

My ONMI is not an output option in my Mac's System Preference Sound settings.

Thx!

The Omni itself won't show up as an option in Mac system sound, but rather the device to which it is connected: HDX or HD Native.

Matt Hepworth 05-21-2023 01:37 PM

Re: Sonarworks Reference 4 Measure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by originalscottyg (Post 2671194)
The Omni itself won't show up as an option in Mac system sound, but rather the device to which it is connected: HDX or HD Native.

This. And only in CoreAudio mode.


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