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stanonbass 06-16-2004 05:24 AM

Instrumental Song
 
Heres a very rough mix of a tune im working on with my group. Its a latin R&B mix with a funky twist. The guitar clips on a part. They were done at my guitarists home studio and he flubbed and mixed the tracks too high when he bounced in nuendo. Its kind of a Nuendo Protools mix session. I over compressed it a bit but you can get the idea (T-racks compresses alot even with it turned down). Its all real drums. I did all the editing in LE by hand. Took me two days. heh. Wish we had beat detective! The organ is a vst wrapped B4 plugin from Native instruments. Didnt know that plug was that awesome! My keyboard player actually did all the rotator adjustments live while we printed the midi to audio. He can play a real one so he knew how to operate the sliders and stuff. Pretty cool when i heard a plugin sound almost real. Bass was done in protools with and ampeg svt 4 pro with a music man stingray 5. Drums were recorded thru a Presonus digimax lt. Anyways check it and tell me how bad the mix is. HA! I mixed it in headphones so there are a few issues and my ears are burnt from recording keys.


http://www.angelfire.com/music6/stanonbass/Snooze.mp3

stanonbass 06-16-2004 05:34 AM

Re: Instrumental Song
 
By the way i just listened to it thru my speakers and the cymbols are compressed to much. So ignore them. LOL!

IntelDoc 06-16-2004 05:44 AM

Re: Instrumental Song
 
Stano,
It has a good clear sound through my computer speakers. The drums are IMO a tad hot. I would actually try to lower them about 2 to 2.5db and let them sit back in the mix a bit more. The toms sound good, but the cymbals are too loud in the mix. Set them all back a notch and I think that your guitars and others sections will come out a lot more. It sounds like the drums are in front of everything right now. A little bright too, but sometimes that is good. add a notch of highs in the guitar too and I think that it will jump out a bit more too... Keys are good, just think that the drums need to be sent o the back a bit.

Cool jam... Very live feel to it!

- Doc

Guit4Brains 06-16-2004 07:50 AM

Re: Instrumental Song
 
Sounds cool IMHO. I know you wrote that it was a "rough mix" but personally I like the raw aspect of the track. I didn't think the drums were too loud but then again I am at work listening on consumer cans.
I would try and EQ the guitar a little bit but maybe if you determine that the drums are in fact too loud bringing them down will make more room for it.
Nice guitar licks and all the performances are t-i-g-h-t.

Guit4Brains 06-16-2004 08:01 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Wow, you definately remind me of Jeff. Great voice.

As I was listening I felt the vocals and guitars could use a bigger verb, I don't know, kind of like "american dreaming" by dead can dance. That's more creative input, though. I'll leave the more useful production critiques to the experts.

IntelDoc 06-16-2004 08:18 AM

Re: Instrumental Song
 
I was just saying that the drums (cymbals really) seemed to be sitting too far up at you. they sound like they are in front of everthing else. That was why I think that they should be set back in the mix and it will in turn bring the guitar and other sections out!

Try it and see what happens. It sounds great though really! Just a bit too in your face for the overall sound!

Try th Guitar EQ too! It will brighten up the part a lot and make it come forward in the mix

- Doc

stanonbass 06-16-2004 02:13 PM

Re: Instrumental Song
 
You totally right. Drums are way loud. There punchy now so im happy with that. I will bring the whole mix of the down. Im gonna bring the kick down slightly as well and work on the overheads. The tones are good though. I need to brighten the guitar too. Im wanting to recut the guitars. My guitarist recorded them too hot. And he used this outboard compressor and it really squashed them. But if i must keep the guitars i will brighten them. Hopefully he will give me a mix without the clip. I hope thats not permanant. Jeesh. Thanks for listening guys and giving advice. Im new to the forums by about a month or so. This is my first time posting. Its nice to get outside ears.

Thanks guys

Stan

IntelDoc 06-16-2004 04:45 PM

Re: Instrumental Song
 
Stanonbass,

Email me please, got something for ya to hear...

- Doc


Roy Howell 06-16-2004 09:25 PM

Re: Instrumental Song
 
stanonbass,
Despite the initial mix flaws you guys have mentioned, I love 'Snooze'...I really enjoyed it...nice piece, and everything is definitely played very well. If you remix, please be sure and post it again.
-Roy

wonderfall 06-17-2004 03:45 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Quote:

Nice tune. Great voice. I always enjoy a nice, rich baritone. Hey, you know, I heard INXS is a looking for a new singer who can sing like Michael Hutchens. I’d try out but I’m a tenor. Dust off those leather pants, dude!

Thanks and LOL Groovi ! I'll leather off my dusty pants... Where should I apply again? I lost their number...
By the way, I may be baritone in the morning. But I can't sing that during the day!...(I'm more of a tenor too...) ooops I gave my secret... Do you think INXS would like to play their concert in the morning from now on? innovative...


Well I finally got to listen to some tunes here :

Song of a Mermaid : I like it. Great atmosphere. I'm usually not fond of synthesized sound, but you made it alive Roy! For some reason it reminds me of Song to the Siren by Mortal Coil (original Tim Buckley) from Lost Highway's soundtrack. Probably because of the idea of space it gives (and the title?). Definitely good for a soundtrack!

Into You : very nice tune. Good voice. When you push your voice, it's definitely close to Jeff's! The music too... Congrats.

Snooze : very well played! I specially like the drum's (HH and cymbals on quiet parts). I would just turn up the guitar volume, but well I'm a guitarist... Very good!

Res : nice soft jazz piece. It has this welcome silky touch. very nice.

Deception : sounds very well produced to me. Good job!
Maybe just a tad too cold sounding to me, if I may. But that's probably the style of the song that wants it.

There's also a tune with slide guitar which I remember I liked pretty well, but can't find it again...

Cheers.



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