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calmly44 08-19-2021 09:02 AM

Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Hello All,

So my stem mix resonates in my car only where as playing other songs in the car does not resonate. My car speakers are JBL. I will appreciate knowing exactly what is causing this.

Attached is a short stem. Low end is clean etc.

Pro Tools 10
Mac OS mavericks
192 l/O

calmly44 08-19-2021 09:12 AM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Link to tracks attached
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?c...w5h86ye0wnalzk

EGS 08-19-2021 08:46 PM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by calmly44 (Post 2611186)

It's a mix issue. Mixing is an acquired skill. Ya gotta learn to tame those resonate low frequencies as you mix. You could perhaps search YouTube for some general mix & EQ tips, take a class, or work with a pro to help refine your skills. Pull reference tracks into your session, and compare to your mix. Learn to listen and EQ critically. Use great monitors (don't skimp). Use big/medium/small monitors plus headphones; yes check on all 4 if at all possible!!! Loud & soft. Take breaks.

What monitors are you currently mixing on? How is the room?

JFreak 08-19-2021 11:21 PM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EGS (Post 2611217)
Loud & soft. Take breaks.
What monitors are you currently mixing on? How is the room?

Check loud and soft, yes, but mix at constant volume, as in use SPL meter and signal generator and calibrate the position of your volume knob to 85dB pink noise.

Listening fatigue is real phenomenon, breaks are a must. And if you feel too busy to take a break, consider one more reality check which is the hallway check, or "go outside of the room and make the single door make your stuff mono" :D

calmly44 08-20-2021 01:17 AM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Thanks Bud
Mackie 5 extra hi fi reference is Sinotec ...



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calmly44 08-20-2021 01:18 AM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by calmly44 (Post 2611224)
Thanks Bud
Mackie 5 extra hi fi reference is Sinotec ...



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Room is fairly small but not reverberant or resonant also

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JFreak 08-20-2021 01:20 AM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Mackies are known to be "feel good" speakers, not great for mixing. Unless you have got used to them of course. But getting used to them means you know how it translates, and this seems to be the problem. What you think is a nice mix on your Mackies is not nice outside your listening environment.

calmly44 08-20-2021 01:21 AM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EGS (Post 2611217)
It's a mix issue. Mixing is an acquired skill. Ya gotta learn to tame those resonate low frequencies as you mix. You could perhaps search YouTube for some general mix & EQ tips, take a class, or work with a pro to help refine your skills. Pull reference tracks into your session, and compare to your mix. Learn to listen and EQ critically. Use great monitors (don't skimp). Use big/medium/small monitors plus headphones; yes check on all 4 if at all possible!!! Loud & soft. Take breaks.



What monitors are you currently mixing on? How is the room?

Mackie 5 extra hi fi reference is Sinotec

" Just started using a new app for the forum, pardon the double posts " ...

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albee1952 08-20-2021 06:23 AM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by calmly44 (Post 2611225)
Room is fairly small but not reverberant or resonant also

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Its not a matter of reverberation, but all rooms will have peaks and nulls. The smaller the room, the worse. And, the less acoustic treatment, the worse. Let's take an average bedroom of 10'x12'x8'. Each dimension is going to exaggerate a couple of frequencies and will cancel out a couple of other frequencies(we're only talking low end for this). So the side to side is messing up the sound, the front to back is messing it up at different frequencies and the floor to ceiling is messing up a third set of frequencies:eek: This is why acoustic treatment is so valuable(and foam does nearly nothing for low frequencies, despite any marketing hype). Now add the modest hyping of low frequencies in the speakers(common for budget monitors with small woofers) and the fact that most car stereos(especially with subs) are even more hyped. Great advice already, especially about using some good headphones to get a good idea of the "real" low end of your mix. This will be a learning process that involves a lot of back and forth and getting used to what you have, or making major improvements in your listening space:o

TOM@METRO 08-20-2021 09:56 AM

Re: Mix heavily Resonates sounds only in my car - JBL
 
What Dave said! ^^^


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