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Table Syrup Records 11-02-2013 02:52 PM

PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
I'm missing the 'Phase Scope' from my sessions.... after an upgrade to PT11HD

I believe this was under 'Sound Field'
I have Waves Diamond Native, and it is not a Waves Plug....

Wondering if there is something I have not installed along with the new upgrade to PT11HD (Fresh installs)

Details (Specific Q's after):

Mac Pro Quad 3.2 - 5,1 - 3 Months old
OS 10.7.5 - BECAUSE ML IS NOT ON APP STORE!!! WHAT THE CRAP!!!!!?????
PT11HD 11.0.2
Waves Diamond V9 - Latest Download
PCIe HD Native
HD I/O 16, 192, Sync I/O, Midi I/O

I do own the 'Factory Bundle', and I think some other extras (Shipped with 002R back then)
Didn't install anything from that, which included the Complete Production Toolkit 'CPTK' (version 1, if there was a later one)

So, Q1:
Was the Phase Scope part of the CPTK or Factory Bundle????

Q2:
Is the CPTK or Factory Bundle of any benefit to me?
Q3 (Or Q2 part 2):
Do the4 CPTK or FB include anything that PT11HD does not????

I searched the PT11 forum for 'Phase Scope' and got no results... so I'm asking.

Thanks for any info ;)

joachim 11-03-2013 03:08 AM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
Has been criticized before (no AAX 64bit version) :
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t...ighlight=scope

I miss it too.

akhafaji 11-03-2013 11:23 AM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joachim (Post 2098712)
Has been criticized before (no AAX 64bit version) :
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t...ighlight=scope

I miss it too.

+1 :(

sunburst79 11-03-2013 09:44 PM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
Phase Scope was a Avid Freebie. As far as I know its not on the discontinued list. No scuttlebutt from Avid as to if when it will be ported to AAX.

Craig F 11-03-2013 11:58 PM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
People found it usable?
I found the lag totally unacceptable.

Table Syrup Records 11-04-2013 06:55 AM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
Sorry. Like I said, I searched but kept getting no results. I don't beat dead horses and I always search first

Anyway, ok, ok, fair enough, it's not there now...

But, as far as the other Q's?????

Is my CPTK worth anything too me when running 11HD?
I mean, anything in it that I will not have with 11HD?

Haven't spent a tremendous amount of time in there yet... won't until Friday...

Just got done moving the studio so I would greatly appreciate it if you can shed some grace and maybe humor me and potentially save me some time ;) (I haven't been on much lately, but have done the same for years - thanx)

Table Syrup Records 11-04-2013 07:03 AM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
Craig,

It seemed 'fairly' responsive to me... If nothing else I can see the pattern of the spikes and pin it down to it's source, even if it is behind..... maybe not great, but just another reference...

Likewise, I am also using Imagers or Shufflers (Waves S1) on my mixes and they are 'ok' for reference as well, but I think they tend to reflect more artifacts that are actually not phasing.... I could be mistaken.

I really do need to get a real scope (Need one for electronics stuff I do anyway), and also some better analysis tools... open to plugin suggestions for this

I may also be getting Waves Durrough (Demo made me happy), unless I can get things dialed in with my Trident 65 correctly.... unless I am making mistakes somewhere or my VU's in the Trident are all off by an approximately nominal 3+db.... cause they are not jiving with the meter settings in 11HD.... not a very big deal, but I can hear it and see it, so it would be nice to have it all dialed in properly...

I calibrated my I/O's against themselves - zero'd 1k tone - but maybe I need to tone through the entire rig and zero everything out together.... yeah, maybe I'm just an idiot.... ha.....

Craig F 11-04-2013 09:13 AM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
It hasn't been declared dead unlike other plugs.
I like Blue Cat's RTA plug and Fluxe's Stereo Tool (scope), both are free
CPTK doesn't do anything in 11 but give you a upgrade path to HD from vanilla

sunburst79 11-05-2013 04:25 AM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kdarbyshirebryant (Post 2099028)
Signaltools did a surroundscope as well. I miss it.

Yep. I'm hoping these show up in a update soon.

benvlad 02-06-2014 05:14 PM

Re: PT11HD - Missing 'Phase Scope'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty Emcee (Post 2098975)
Sorry. Like I said, I searched but kept getting no results. I don't beat dead horses and I always search first

Anyway, ok, ok, fair enough, it's not there now...

But, as far as the other Q's?????

Is my CPTK worth anything too me when running 11HD?
I mean, anything in it that I will not have with 11HD?

Haven't spent a tremendous amount of time in there yet... won't until Friday...

Just got done moving the studio so I would greatly appreciate it if you can shed some grace and maybe humor me and potentially save me some time ;) (I haven't been on much lately, but have done the same for years - thanx)


Super disappointed that phase scope is not included.. I find it super useful!!

Shorty Emcee, I am actually looking for CPTK at the moment.. would you be willing to sell it to me if you no longer have a use for it?

Cheers,
Ben


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