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mozart 11-29-2008 06:17 AM

Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
I'm thinking of picking up one of those. I see price is almost double for the TDM Version. Is it worth it?
What are the advantages of the TDM over Native, particular for this plug in?
Anybody used them both, or have them both on the same machine?

JFreak 11-29-2008 08:36 AM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
It's a great plug if you're looking for a clean and transparent reverb that is highly customizable. TDM version naturally has dramatically lower latency so in my book the extra cost is worth it.

That said; I don't use it as much as for example TC VSS3 or Eventide Reverb, but it's still nice to have it available.

Kenny Gioia 11-29-2008 09:20 AM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
Is Latency really an issue with reverb?

I use Waves IR-1 which is only RTAS and it works fine for me.

innesireinar 11-29-2008 10:16 AM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
RTAS plugs don't have more latency than the TDM versions.
The problem happens when you use them in aux/master channels (or in audio tracks after a tdm plug) because of the streaming from the tdm environment to the cpu and back to the tdm. Therefore in this case the latency depends of how is set the HW buffer in the audio engine. If you set the HW buffer at 256 samples you wll have 512 samples of latency (plus some samples introduced by the plugin itself) that can be well compensated by the ADC set at medium size (1023 samples) but if are running on an old G5 and you want more performance for VI you probably have to set the HW buffer at least at 512. In this case you will have 1024 samples of latency only for the streamings (plus the plugin samples) and especially if you need more comp for inserting other plugs in the chain you will run out of the compensation (medium). You will have to set a higher setting for the ADC that eats more DSPs.
I hope this helps

JFreak 11-29-2008 10:39 AM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
It is only a problem when you do LIVE projects (or have to provide a monitor mix via PT). Generally artists don't accept +10ms latency, so that means 44.1kHz session latency "glass ceiling" would be 440 samples.

Okay, 256 buffer setting is workable. But it's rather close to the limit. I'd rather take TDM-only session that has effectively "zero" latency.

preachers 12-07-2008 07:20 PM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
hi everyone, i got a problem in useing RTAS plugins at aux channel.

my delay compensation setting was long (4095),but when the dly count exceed about 3000samples at the aux channel, the charactor will trun red, what's happened in my aux channel???

peter99 12-08-2008 02:22 AM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
I have problems with TL space in rtas mode on a aux channel

if I use it in rtas mode I can hear a pre delay I dont hear if I use it in TDM - of course ADC is on in 4096 mode

any idea how I can fix this? anyone using TL space in rtas mode without any problems on a HD rig?

thx

Andre Knecht 12-08-2008 03:09 AM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by preachers (Post 1312895)
hi everyone, i got a problem in useing RTAS plugins at aux channel.

my delay compensation setting was long (4095),but when the dly count exceed about 3000samples at the aux channel, the charactor will trun red, what's happened in my aux channel???

Welcome to the DUC, Preacher.

Instead of the traditional bottle of wine, or tuna casserole (yikes!) allow me to offer two bits of advice, which hopefully will ensure your enjoyment and satisfaction as a DUC member for years to come.

Cross-posting (in various DUC fori) and/or multiple posts about the same question/topic is generally frowned upon. The folks around here are generally very helpful and eager to lend a hand (as I’m sure you’ve discovere by now, since you’ve already received two answers).

Along the same lines, highjacking a thread by changing the subject to something other than what the original writer intended is also considered bad form.

IHTH.


preachers 12-08-2008 07:54 PM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre Knecht (Post 1312976)
Welcome to the DUC, Preacher.

Instead of the traditional bottle of wine, or tuna casserole (yikes!) allow me to offer two bits of advice, which hopefully will ensure your enjoyment and satisfaction as a DUC member for years to come.

Cross-posting (in various DUC fori) and/or multiple posts about the same question/topic is generally frowned upon. The folks around here are generally very helpful and eager to lend a hand (as I’m sure you’ve discovere by now, since you’ve already received two answers).

Along the same lines, highjacking a thread by changing the subject to something other than what the original writer intended is also considered bad form.

IHTH.

as you know, i'm new in DUC, thank you for your prompt, i'll never do that~~:p

Eric Spaceship 12-08-2008 09:41 PM

Re: Sonnox Oxford Reverb Native VS TDM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter99 (Post 1312964)
I have problems with TL space in rtas mode on a aux channel

if I use it in rtas mode I can hear a pre delay I dont hear if I use it in TDM - of course ADC is on in 4096 mode

any idea how I can fix this? anyone using TL space in rtas mode without any problems on a HD rig?

thx

What does the delay compensation stats at the bottom of the Aux report? What is your playback buffer size set to?


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