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JCBigler 06-24-2014 08:46 PM

Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
Is anyone using the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card with Protools 11 HD Native?

I'm trying to put together the specs to send out to bid after July 1st for a new workstation computer (new Mac Pro) which will run primarily Protools 11 HD Native and QLab 3.

One vendor is telling me that Protools and the Dante Accelerator Card don't work together, Yamaha is telling me that they work fine. :confused:

nst7 06-24-2014 09:14 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
It looks to me like it's basically an audio interface. If that's the case, then no, it won't work alongside HD Native hardware, because HD Native would be your interface.

However, if you wanted to use the HD software and use the Dante card as the interface instead of the HD Native, then that should work, just like you can use any other interface. Maybe that's what Yamaha meant.

Or am I misunderstanding what this is?

Craig F 06-24-2014 09:19 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
If your using the HD Native card/box then you can not use any other I/O device at the same time

If the Mac sees it as a Core Audio device then Pro Tools should see it but it will be limited to 32 channels of I/O

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/pro-...dware-checker/
said N12 works what ever that is

JCBigler 06-24-2014 10:46 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
So the is something that I don't understand. If I have a Protools HD Native system with the Thunderbolt or PCIe card and an Omni I/O, and the Protools HD software, and I don't want to use the OMNI I/O and the HD Native card, but I still want to use the HD software, am I still limited to 32 channels of I/O while using another ASIO or Core Audio interface? (Such as the Dante Accelerator Card).

Is the only way to get above the 32 input limit to stack a bunch of HD I/Os or Madi I/Os?

JFreak 06-24-2014 10:48 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCBigler (Post 2166611)
Is the only way to get above the 32 input limit to stack a bunch of HD I/Os or Madi I/Os?

Yes.

JCBigler 06-24-2014 10:59 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JFreak (Post 2166612)
Yes.

That blows. I already have a $40,000 sound console with 64 channels of high end AD (actually 72). All I need to do is get them into Protools.

Why doesn't Avid make an HD Dante interface? :confused:

Nuendo is the main option I have for recording and then I would have to import the wave files into Protools in post, which is a PITA.

Darryl Ramm 06-24-2014 11:00 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
or any third party HD/TDM compatible IO.

e.g Apogee Symphony.

Or if your want to connect Dante to an actual HD card. http://us.focusrite.com/rednet-protoolshd. Which may do what you need, even if it's not how you want to do it.

Avid does not endorse/support any of these third party HD/TDM connected IO products.

Why does Avid not have a Dante solution today, likely lots of reasons including they are very invested in TDM connected IO and its going to be a while until they want to make all that technology redundant in the market, and Dante is a proprietary solution that might be outpaced by pure open AVB. Avid is already doing interesting stuff with AVB with the S3L. I'd personally like to see them focus on pure AVB as it evolves than anything else.

Is MADI an option on your console?

Craig F 06-24-2014 11:09 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
you can go 64 channels if you go with the MADI interface

JFreak 06-24-2014 11:12 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCBigler (Post 2166613)
That blows. I already have a $40,000 sound console with 64 channels of high end AD (actually 72). All I need to do is get them into Protools.

So grab 4 old blue-faced 192digital interface boxes and connect them into your HDN and there you have your 64 inputs. Actually in your shoes I would buy three digital boxes and one 192analog with digital option, so I would have 8 analog outputs as well.

JCBigler 06-24-2014 11:13 PM

Re: Protools 11HD/Native and the Yamaha Dante Accelerator Card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm (Post 2166614)
Or if your want to connect Dante to an actual HD card. http://us.focusrite.com/rednet-protoolshd. Which may do what you need, even if it's not how you want to do it.

Yeah, the vendor that I have been talking to suggested a Focusrite Red Net alternative set up. But it's ridiculous. All that extra crap just to pull 64 channels of digital audio that is already on a network. Plus, they don't have a provision for a secondary Dante port for redundant connections like the Yamaha card does.

I can already record 64 channels with the Dante Virtual Sound card. It's easy to do. Just not while staying inside Protools. It should be even easier by adding a dedicated Dante Ethernet card.


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