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This is a buddy's son band that I recorded on a 001 (on mac) and mixed with a MBox (on PC). They are not done with it yet, but hope to finish it with inthe next century. Anyway, tell me what you think. It is a WMA file. Thanks in advance
http://home.wideopenwest.com/~tflana...usic/song3.wma

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there's 2 answers to this question actually. for some of the songs I wanted the lower vocals to be a bit clearer but the higher, more powerful vocals to be a little distorted. You know what actually worked the best for me to achieve this? Have the preamp set for the lower vocals and when he really sings hard have the track clip a bit here and there. I know it goes against the rules but it sounds pretty cool for the right style of singer. And for some parts I used the Lo-fi plug-in with the distortion set at 2.0-3.0 and the saturation at about 0.2 Try that and see how it works!

also, I think the songs are downloadable on the site I gave?

After a LOOOOONG time...
 

Its been a while since i've posted something here. I got so busy, and i am still VERY busy lately. I will catch up with you guys somehow... Anyway... I composed and recorded a song 2 years ago, and some friends from Brazil decided to put some lirycs on it, so we re-recorded the song. After months of sending the song back and forth (Brazil-California-Washington-Brazil-California) , here is the latest mix. Endless Day
This is a fairly popular band in Brazil called D-Spero. Much peace for you all!

Enjoy,

Roger

2 tracks in the works...
 

Check out 2 tracks which i did all the synth/electronic work for an established artist (with her permission of course). The tracks are not yet processed, mixed-down nor mastered ... but you'll get the idea.

Here are the direct MP3 links ... play them loud & proud on good set of speakers.

Wake Her Up (this one is seriously emotional)...
http://homepage.mac.com/cavecybernation/WakeHerUp.mp3

Sanity...
http://homepage.mac.com/cavecybernation/Sanity.mp3

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Very nice, Rogerio.....sounds great...an excellent collaboration. So HUB-TV's keeping you pretty busy?...

-Roy


p.s. I'm gonna post the new 'Anger' here later, if it's ok with you.

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Great tune. I am looking forward to hearing the finished version. Is all of their stuff like this?

Can I ask how you recorded the guitar?

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Alright, here's another band I just finished mixing down. They're going to post a new song every week.

www.mypsace.com/amity

someone else recorded the drums and most of the instruments (almost same gear I have plus some extra mics, used one single Groove Tubes GT55 for just one overhead), and I recorded all of the vocals, mixed, and mastered the whole thing. Drums sound huge.

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Nothing there????

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my bad, it was a typo

www.myspace.com/amity

Hanu
 

New one is out there.

Hanu

A little bit smoother than my previous posts here.

Feel free to say anything!

One of my frends helped me with mixing: Sir Spliff Richard. (Yes, it is pseudonym.)

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Yes all of their stuff is like this. They just added a Piano player and a mando player so we will be hopefully finishing up the tracks.

The guitar, I used his pickup and an AT4050 between the sound hole and the fret board. I found that that is the sweet spot on most accustics and sometimes I will throw a omni just above the persons strumming shoulder to get a different sound out of the guitar.


Thank for liking the tune. I will let the guys know and keep you informed on the up coming tracks.

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BretFarewell,

Sorry, page will not load.

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try again, works fine for me?

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Hey Guys!

Here's a new song my band's been working on. Any comments (song, performances, recording, mixing, etc.) welcome!

http://www.myspace.com/cavetyoureruptor

Thanks!!

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Bret,
Dig the tune... Will listen at home on the monitors, but cool vibe so far. Like the guitar sounds too. Very lo-fi, but smooth....

- Doc

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here's one my ex-girlfriend wrote after the tsunami. it has a really cool bridge part about 3/4 of the way through the song. hundreds of background vocals, guitars, etc.

http://www.pmproductions.biz/music/airofhope.mp3

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Hey double,

Sounds nice. She has a very sweet voice. I like the mix - it does sound like a lot of layers, but I am not a fan of helicopter sounds - makes me think of that 'Goodnight Saigon' song by Billy Joel. That's just my hangup though.

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Check out 2 tracks which i did all the synth/electronic work for an established artist (with her permission of course). The tracks are not yet processed, mixed-down nor mastered ... but you'll get the idea.

Here are the direct MP3 links ... play them loud & proud on good set of speakers.

Wake Her Up...
http://homepage.mac.com/cavecybernation/WakeHerUp.mp3

Sanity...
http://homepage.mac.com/cavecybernation/Sanity.mp3

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Chris: just caught this post when I was searching through the forum here. lol sorry about the late reply man. Very cool about the collection though man! I have no clue how to make one, but if you ever come across a tree to knock out like that again and make them up, would you mind sending one my way? I would love to actually own one that I could mess with more. Well, I will chat you later man. peace

Charlie

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BretFarewell-
Bret,
Nice job on What Price Fugitive/'Can't Complain'...but especially good(to me) is Simeon Howell/Amity. The drums are indeed killer...very cool bass sound, song...and perhaps mainly, the singer's voice and style...very nice. Great job on the mix/master from you, IMO.


-Roy




Still listening to more songs...some damn good stuff lately.

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double-

double,
Good song...I really like the piano parts, especially when it returns to the verse...nice chord changes and arrangement...this sounds like something Kate Bush might do. Nice voice too, though it tends to get overshadowed in places by the background stuff. The mix has a 'thinness' to it which might benefit from some more low end, IMO. But it's a very good song and effort. Thanks for the listen.

-Roy

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CellAutomata-

quote]Check out 2 tracks which i did all the synth/electronic work for an established artist (with her permission of course). The tracks are not yet processed, mixed-down nor mastered ... but you'll get the idea.

Wake Her Up...
http://homepage.mac.com/cavecybernation/WakeHerUp.mp3

Sanity...
http://homepage.mac.com/cavecybernation/Sanity.mp3

[/QUOTE]


CellAutomata,
Great synth work...you brought something very cool to each song. Great sounds and parts. I'de like to hear you on some of my stuff sometime...

-Roy

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Catching up with the latest tunes here.

Cellautomata good job on both songs. I like Sanity especially. Nice synth tunes.

Will be checking some more stuff here later on. Got some concepts ready to post, nearly done with "In the Silence".

Keep it going,

Walther

Voideco

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chuck78-

chuck78,
Nice job on your buddy's son's band...I like the simple production...would also like to hear it with a few things added to enhance it. Good job though...

-Roy

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Thanks Roy. Yea they just picked up a mando player and a piano player so they will probably redo everthing. Plus the song writer wasnt to happy with the drummer. He wanted everything to be simple.
So that song and the rest that I have are just me messing around.


Again thanks on the comments.

Chuck

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Thanks so much for your nice feedback. Yeah I would love to check out your stuff and possibly add synths to your tracks. By the way, I used nothing but Reason2.5 (rewired into Protools) for the 2 track.

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Thanks for the feedback Voideco.
Yeah, at first I thought Sanity was boring, and the producer wanted me to add the usual boring keys such as organs, string pads, and other typical cliche crap that sound like factory presets. But I decided to do my own thing and spice things up with enigma-esque stuff without his pre-approval. Of course ... he liked it in the end. Now I hope the engineer won't muck things up in the mixdown by burying or killing the synths with over-compression and losing the dynamics.

Here\'s a new one
 

Started working with a new band yesterday. Doing 2 songs and one is almost done. I think that they will do the vocals over again. Not that tight, and he can sing better. The only part that I really do not like. The guitars sound pretty good. Used 4 mics and made them double the takes, so 8 travks for acoustics. Used the TLM-103 on the hole, 435 above the shoulder pointing down... 012 and 435 at the 12th fret. 103 and the 012 went into the Trident 80B. The TLM went to the 1176 before Pro Tools and the 012 went directly to Pro Tools. The 435's were into the DigiPRE and then Pro Tools. All mics go into the Rosetta 800. Bass was direct into the 1985 Demeter VTMP-2a and the 1176. Vocals so far are the 103 into the 1176. Electric guitar is some VOX modeller amp on the AC-30 mode. Sounded pretty cool. Ran the 421 and 57 combo into the 1272. Liked that tone. A few little effects on the guitars and vocals. Then cutup and mixed....

I like it, but the vocals need work. Always the case for some reason.

Enjoy,

Tapping On Glass

- Doc

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the whole mix seems really bass heavy imo, and definitely needs to redo the vocals, but besides that it sounds really good. the sound you got on the acoustic is really nice, same with the lead guitar, i just think the whole thing is a bit too bass heavy.

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No worries..... funny. Rolled everything 50 and below off but I did pump up the bass some. Sounds good in the car, but could be dropped a tad. Maybe 2bd. Still rough mixed and the vox will be redone for sure. They know this too. The guitars I really really like alot. The drums sound the best I have gotten in a long time. Probably due to the player actually had dynamics. The Vox really do not do much for me at all.

Thaks for listening... I will post it again when finalized.... They may take it to my mastering guy too. That would be cool to get him some business. Not that he needs it.

Also, the bass heaviness may be your room? Not sure as to what your setup is, but it sounds pretty balanced through my mackies... But again, I will check it out and maybe try to lower it a few db to see what that changes.

Thanks again though....

- Doc

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Yeah Doc,

I thought this sounded really good. You're right, I think that is the best drum work I've heard from your place, and the guitars sound very good.

I have a similar issue with the bass; did you go direct? It's not that the sound is bad to me, or even too much, it's just there isn't a lot of definition, the bass seems to cover all of the spectrum. Curious how you got the sound.

bp

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BP,
Hey man, thanks for taking a listen first off. The bass was played through some Carvin 5 string. The player is actually the guitarist and kinda "winged" it in a sense. I ran that track direct through the 1985 Demeter Vtmp-2a Tube pre into the 1176 and then to the Rosetta 800. Slapped the Fairchild on it to give a little bit more thickness and mixed to taste. I know that it is pumped a tad too much and will lower it about 2db. The guitarist likes it though, so we shall see. He was really going for a low, flat fretless sound to be honest. Did not want alot of presence, more filler.

The drums I am very happy with. Still going to tweek them a bit and really mastered it quickly. The cymbals need to shine a tad more. Kinda brittle in parts, and I will automate the Tom hits. All the EQ's are the URS Neve ones minus a few Waves stuff that I put on the Guitars. The compressors are RComp and the 660. RComp is my go to Compressor for sure.

Reverb is a mixture of TrueVerb with a setting I made, The Lexicon PCM-90 (outboard)
Delays are the Waves 2 tap, and the Eventide H-3000D/SE. Very, Very low in the mix, but heard on headphones.


4 mics on the acoustic, and made them double it. Compressed one going in, and ran the others clean.

All converted with the Apogee Rosetta 800. Recorded at 48/24

- Doc

Latest Stuff...
 

Yeehah.....

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Hi!

If anyone gets a chance, I would certainly appreciate feedback. There is a slightly modified version now up on the webpage:

www.myspace.com/cavetyoureruptor

I'm mostly interested in comments about the mix, but any input would be helpful! Thanks!

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Cavet,
Alright, here is my opinions..... all opinions of course as we all learn from this place.

Lets start with the guitars:

1. Acoustics seem a tad harsh going in. Almost clipping or too compressed. Sounds like it was all breaking up. I would try to record them and get the levels to hit the yellow and then compress to desired sound. Then, re-record them on seperate tracks and pan the two hard left and right. That will give the image of having a larger guitar sound and thicken up your tracks.

2. Electric guitars are a tad distracting to be that far to the left speaker. I would mic it with 2 individual mics if you have them. I use a 57 and a 421 combo a lot. Just to blend the sounds. Then, I would pan that to about 40 and -40. That will smooth it, or double that as well and make it 80 / -80 on top of the acoustics.

3. Solo guitar: Too loud! and needs somethng, just too dry. I would add a 2 tap stereo delay and throw that beast hard left and right. Add a trueverb or something to smooth out the playing and compress it to take away some of the dynamics that it already lacks. Not to be rude, some of the notes were off too.

4. Bass: - Compress it! HARD!

5. Vocals - Add a 2 tap delay, same as the guitars.... but make that send very, very low... just to give it some depth. Maybe EQ it a tad more... a bit harsh and too hot in the mix.

6. Drums, sound good from what I hear, but sould be compressed some more I am sure.

All and all, that is what I can say. Good attempt and definitely keep working at it. Got a good thing to work with, with decent sounds, just watch your levels going in. That acoustic sounds very washed and distorted.

Again, just opinions and not trying to sound rude, just trying to help.

- Doc

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IntelDoc,

Thank you so much! That's exactly the kind of help I need! If you get a chance (or if anyone wants to listen now) to listen to the song again, I reposted a new version trying to implement your suggestions. I am still pretty new to this, but with everyone's help I feel like I'm learning so much. Thanks again to IntelDoc and thanks in advance to anyone else that has any comments.

The latest version:

www.myspace.com/cavetyoureruptor

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Better, but the vocals are still too loud in my mind. I would lower them about 2 to 3db. Are you compressing them too? If so, what compressor. Also, you just doubled the acoustics and panned it didn't ya? I would actualy replay it again and pan it left, then play it a second time through and pan it right. Just sounds too distorted to be honest. Nice little strummy part, but sounds like you went in too hot to start. Sounds like it is clipping. The electric parts in the center is better though.

Keep trying, it is getting there.

- Doc

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IntelDoc,

Thanks (again!) for listening (again!) to the revisions. The vocal doesn't have any compression on it, but that is easily fixed. The only compressor I have is the DigiRack Compressor II that came built into ProTools. I did re-record the acoustic, but you are correct, I just doubled and panned it. I had originally recorded it going through a compressor, but this time just took it straight in. I thought I had kept the level low enough, but I guess not. The only processing on the acoustic is EQ. I'll try to work on it some more tonight.

Thanks again - you've been really helpful!

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Cavet,
Remember, when you double and pan something that is the same file, it is essentially MONO. Now it may sound louder, but it is the same wave file, just panned.... Pnned makes it MONO. If you do this, you may try nudging it forward a few millisecs and adding some sort of quick slap delay on it. You can then fake it, but it still sounds like the same guitar track. Doubling just sounds better. Listen to the song I posted up above and you will hear that the guitars are doubled. I also have a very subtle 2 tap delay on them that you really can hear only in headphones, but it just adds a little more depth to it all.

Keep at it.

Seriously try to play the part twice. You have the tracks to use, and the CPU I am sure.

I would do this:

1. Record the acoustic: Not sure on your mic selection but... if I had to I would guess... SM-57 and maybe a SM-58. MAybe a few other pencil (SD) mics.

I would put the pencel mic on the 12th fret about a foot away pointing in at the 12th fret towards the sound hole. Still focus on the 12th as it will give you the string sound. BUt angle it towards the body of the guitar. Then take another mic and point that to the soundhole. Not directly at it, kinda slightly above it and back. That gives you the body of sound that acoustics need. Then run that to the Digi002 preamps (obviously) Take the levels to clip, then back off and then back off slightly again as most players tend to play harder when recording. Give yourself some headroom so you can add effects and dynamics later if needed. Play a few secs to hear it back.
Get a good solid signal going in without distorting, or making the guitar sound so harsh. You want acoustic, not distorted acoustic.

2. The ELECTRIC GUITAR: Put that SM-57 in front of your speaker cabinet at the speaker. Take it and center it on the cone, then move it towards the outside of the cone about 2/3 rds to the edge. Then take the mic and turn it slightly in towards the center. Not directly, but just a little off access.... That should beef up the sound a tad. If you are going direct, then find another sound. Not diggin it to be honest. Too shrilly...... Needs to be a little tougher. Again, bring to clip, then back off and get into the yellow (again leaves room for compression later)

3. Vocals: Man, way too HOT! They drown out the rest of the mix. Compress afterwards. If all you have is the digi stuff, then that is all you have. You can still make it sound good. I recommending getting the WVES bundle for sure though. I would add a long tail reverb and buss your vocals out to that. Blend to what sounds good. Just try not to make the vocals so loud. Take a stereo AUX track and add a reverb to it. Bus your vocals to it. Also you can do this for the acoustics and make the BUS fader low in so that ou do not wash out the guitars. Just going for a little BIGGER sound. Not so tight in your face.

4. GUITAR SOLOS: Sounds better that it is more centered. I would make it 50/-50 and see what that does. Again, add a slight delay (with another BUSS) and space it out some to add depth.

5. Drums, sound alright, a bit too much in the highs. Compression will help some.

Keep at it and hope this helps. A little long, but I can tell that you are learning and that is how the DUC helped me out.

- Doc

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IntelDoc,

In fact I do have both an SM57 and SM58, but (perhaps sadly) I was using a AKG C3000 to record the acoustic guitar. I had positioned it about 8 inches from the soundhole, but cheating toward the fretboard. I never mentioned, but I am using an 001.

Also, I remembered that I have the BombFactory BF76 compressor (from that free bundle), but I don't have a real good idea of how that one works. Would it be worth the time to get more familiar with that one? Is it better than the DigiRack plugin?

The electric was actually recorded direct from a PODxt. I have done nothing with those tracks (dual mono) at all. Maybe some compression and EQ could help those out too?

And now for my latest "revealing how much of a novice I am" question: How is it different to run a track through a Bus with a plug-in, than to just have the plug-in on the track itself? Could you then just bus each track that needs reverb, for example, to a single "reverb" track? Needless to say I have just been adding plug-ins on each track and adjusting the parameters as needed for that particular track.

I hope I'm not taking up all your time, but this info is like gold for me!!