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kiddipalli 06-16-2021 09:04 AM

Menu item naming: "Delete" vs "Delete..."
 
Hi all,

Just wanted to post a strange bug and wonder if anyone can replicate.

I use custom keyboard shortcuts a lot in PT on MacOS and I made a shortcut for track delete today.

I´m working on several sessions (all created on the same machine and system on the same day) While switching between sessions I noticed that my new shortcut wouldn´t work in all of them. When I went into Menu>Track I saw that PT sometimes names the menu command "Delete" and other times it´s named "Delete...". I´ve never seen this before as I´ve not been paying much attention to it until now.

For those who don´t know, creating a custom shortcut in MacOS requires you to write out the menu command exactly as it is in the software so this is an inconveniance (although a minor one) :-)

I´m using PT 2021.3.0 on Mac OS 10.14.6

daeron80 06-16-2021 09:54 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Wow...

Prabha 06-18-2021 05:58 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Lucky you! at least you can create shortcut macros in OS for PT! The windows version of PT is totally crippled in this regard.

(sorry for the rant) :(

Marsdy 06-18-2021 07:17 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kiddipalli (Post 2604419)
Hi all,

Just wanted to post a strange bug and wonder if anyone can replicate.

I use custom keyboard shortcuts a lot in PT on MacOS and I made a shortcut for track delete today.

I´m working on several sessions (all created on the same machine and system on the same day) While switching between sessions I noticed that my new shortcut wouldn´t work in all of them. When I went into Menu>Track I saw that PT sometimes names the menu command "Delete" and other times it´s named "Delete...". I´ve never seen this before as I´ve not been paying much attention to it until now.

For those who don´t know, creating a custom shortcut in MacOS requires you to write out the menu command exactly as it is in the software so this is an inconveniance (although a minor one) :-)

I´m using PT 2021.3.0 on Mac OS 10.14.6

I’d like to know what those three dots mean. Quite a few menu items have them, not just delete.

kiddipalli 06-18-2021 07:37 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

its2loud 06-18-2021 07:43 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kiddipalli (Post 2604543)
I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

I came across this phenomenon when I was doing the same thing. The ellipsis occurs when there is audio or midi on the track. I believe I just made two keyboard shortcuts for both with and without the ellipsis and this fixed the issue.

kiddipalli 06-18-2021 08:07 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by its2loud (Post 2604544)
I came across this phenomenon when I was doing the same thing. The ellipsis occurs when there is audio or midi on the track. I believe I just made two keyboard shortcuts for both with and without the ellipsis and this fixed the issue.

Yeah, I did just that and it works great!

Thanks for the advice.

midnightrambler 06-18-2021 08:15 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Yes I've done the same thing. There was a time when I went mad for making shortcuts this way but I found myself getting tripped up when moving rigs or updating OS so I weaned myself off it. Would still love an actual built-in shortcut for "Show/Hide Color Palette"...

Sonopolis 06-18-2021 10:01 AM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kiddipalli (Post 2604543)
I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

This actually is the Apple UI design philosophy. Try the -menu, now hit the ALT key. The dots disappear. Wouldn't that be nice for some dialogues?

Marsdy 06-18-2021 12:04 PM

Re: BUG REPORT: Menu item naming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kiddipalli (Post 2604543)
I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

That makes sense, good call! The dots appear after MIDI Editor for example which obviously takes you to a new window.


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