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Blues Bird

11-13-2013 05:28 AM

New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

How do you guys use the new metering options in PT 11HD for proper gain staging? I wonder if its useful to switch the track metering to VU to get a more analog like metering experience. Or would be meter like Venue the better choice, because it shows the peaks better ?

Drew Mazurek

11-13-2013 07:21 AM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

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Originally Posted by Blues Bird (Post 2101767)

I wonder if its useful to switch the track metering to VU to get a more analog like metering experience.

I believe the default is Digital VU for channels right?

That's what I use. It forces you visually to resist the urge to drive levels up like you did with those nasty, super fast peak meters PT used to have.

You set the levels just like you always did (make it "look" good on the meter) and provided that you don't mind your waveforms being a little smaller, all is well in digital land!! :D

DetroitT

11-13-2013 09:25 AM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

I go between the legacy Pro Tools and K-20 mostly.
I do use analog VU's on my final mix out (Not Monitors) Which keeps me pretty tamed and are pretty much in line with what the PT's VU variation is.

JFreak

11-13-2013 09:40 AM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

I use Venue metering for tracks and K20 for master

Blues Bird

11-13-2013 10:21 AM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

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Originally Posted by JFreak (Post 2101868)

I use Venue metering for tracks and K20 for master

Venue Peak or RMS? And do you know what "venue" stands for?

Drew Mazurek

11-13-2013 10:27 AM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

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Originally Posted by Blues Bird (Post 2101891)

Venue Peak or RMS? And do you know what "venue" stands for?

Venue is an Avid product.

http://www.avid.com/US/products/fami...-sound-systems

Shan	11-13-2013 12:49 PM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

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Originally Posted by Blues Bird (Post 2101767)

I use the Pro Tools Classic metering option. My main use of meters is to quickly see what track has signal or not and that's about it. It's the ears from that point on.

Shane

Emcha_audio

11-13-2013 01:10 PM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

VU all the way, and only to glance at the global balance, ears (as shane stated) does the 95% of the work.

Drew Mazurek

11-13-2013 01:17 PM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

Can someone explain to me how your ear tells the difference between -20dBFS and -6dBFS unless your control room volume is calibrated?

The OP asked about individual tracks which to me points to basic setting of levels. How do your ears do that?

SpinningDisk

11-13-2013 01:47 PM

Re: New metering - what is useful for gain staging?

Now now....

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