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Justin1524 01-11-2022 11:53 AM

Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
Studio One 5.5
Over 30 new features and improvements
Cost: Free to version 5 owners on up to 5 computers - Pay one price $399 (or less when on sale) no subscription. Pay again only for major versions.

Pro Tools 2021.12
A dozen bug fixes
Cost: Active subscription fee or Active Perpetual License for 1 iLok (cloud or key) $34 (monthly) up to $799 yearly depending on version/plan

Hmmmmm

dominicperry 01-11-2022 02:28 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
I used S1 v3 and v4 for a long time before moving to Logic and PT. There are endless DAW-wars on Gearspace etc so I'll keep my opinions short, and they're just that - opinions.

I had problems with:

1) Midi timing - record something and then play it back, just didn't sound right. No idea what was going wrong but no obvious solution.
2) sudden full-scale noise - as reported on a big thread on the forum - not good when I have 1.2kW of monitoring.
3) Forum is "community support" staffed by enthusiasts and people who won't hear a word said against the product, along with some dullards who always have the same solution for everything
4) developers are rude when they turn up on the forum and are focussed on new features rather than bug fixes

Good stuff:

1) Great UI. Slick, intuitive and fully drag and drop. If you don't mind the blue on blue scheme, it's really easy on the eye and the metering is good.
2) Lots of features.
3) Good value.

Other stuff:

1) Notion is a separate product for score editing and is horrendous.
2) Stock plugins behave differently with some major (and some minor) releases, so really hard to know if a mix saved today will work the same in the future.
3) Saved mix files will usually only open with the same or later versions of the product.

Things I like about PT in comparison.
1) Great music score (looks nice and sensible when converting midi to score). Better than Logic too IMHO.
2) Saved files work with multiple versions (forward and backward compatibility)
3) Forum has lots of professional users and pragmatic opinions. Plenty of die-hard PT users but not blind to shortfalls
4) Devs and product specialists from Avid are polite and constructive when they turn up.
5) PT metering is great. UI is clear, sensible and usable.
6) Loads of support for "stuff". Video, control surfaces, post, Atmos, the list is long.

Dominic

EGS 01-11-2022 04:56 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dominicperry (Post 2625176)
... Things I like about PT ... UI is clear, sensible and usable.
6) Loads of support for "stuff". Video, control surfaces, post, Atmos, the list is long...

I'm using regular Pro Tools/Windows 10/Intel 11th gen/buffer 64. Stable.

dominicperry 01-12-2022 10:50 AM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
I tried the version 5 demo and I've kept in touch with updates.
Still no video engine, for example. Still no inbuilt score editor.
Will be interested to hear what your experience is, and also whether they've fixed the full scale noise issue, which has certainly persisted in various versions of 5.x - the latest notes claim a fix to "666 errors" associated with certain event boundaries, so if that is the problem fixed I will be very pleased.

Dominic

cqd 01-12-2022 03:28 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
Yeah, I bought it second hand on the cheap six months ago..
Have been holding off moving over for some reason..

Avid would just depress you at times..

sdelsolray 01-12-2022 05:59 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
I enjoy both Pro Tools Standard 2021.12 and Studio One Professional 5.5.0 for my limited DAW uses and needs. That being said, much of the enjoyment is due to the hardware, plugins and room I use, which is quite indifferent to which DAW I am using.

grayter1 01-12-2022 06:19 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdelsolray (Post 2625303)
I enjoy both Pro Tools Standard 2021.12 and Studio One Professional 5.5.0 for my limited DAW uses and needs. That being said, much of the enjoyment is due to the hardware, plugins and room I use, which is quite indifferent to which DAW I am using.

I use them both as well. Compose in S1, mix in PT. Much like I did years ago when it was compose in Logic, mix in PT. Just about anything handles VI's better (and more of them) than PT for me. It only takes a couple of instances of Omnisphere to bring PT to its knees. YMMV, of course.

tg

ZEUSS 01-12-2022 07:19 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grayter1 (Post 2625306)
I use them both as well. Compose in S1, mix in PT. Much like I did years ago when it was compose in Logic, mix in PT. Just about anything handles VI's better (and more of them) than PT for me. It only takes a couple of instances of Omnisphere to bring PT to its knees. YMMV, of course.

tg

Which still boggles my mind since ProTools is the industry standard with film. But yet most composers can't use it..... The power to Create???? That used to be their slogan years ago lol

arche3 01-12-2022 07:53 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
The mac pro 71 works very well. Doesn't bog down using VIs.

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grayter1 01-12-2022 08:07 PM

Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arche3 (Post 2625314)
The mac pro 71 works very well. Doesn't bog down using VIs

And for what those cost, they shouldn't bog down. But my little iMac runs VI's just fine in Reaper, Ableton, Logic and S1 without spending that kind of money.

We all need to be honest. PT isn't built for VI's for a number of us users. I have hope for the new ARM systems once everything runs native.

tg


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