Soft SampleCell??? [Archive] - Avid Pro Audio Community

michael c

01-26-2001, 08:49 PM

I saw a beta version of SoftSample Cell at NAMM. It's supposed to ship by April, cost less than $400.00. Initial version will be 64 voice capable with max RAM of 128. Looked very cool and easy to use........

BHeller

01-27-2001, 12:10 AM

...And what will become of my $1100, underused SampleCell card? Could this be a front-end for it?

BHeller

01-27-2001, 12:11 AM

...And what will become of my $1100, underused SampleCell card? Could this be a front-end for it?

Rail Jon Rogut

01-27-2001, 12:40 AM

I believe the SampleCell (hardware version) will be discontinued... Guitar Center's been blowing them out for (if I remember right) around $599.

Rail

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Kev

01-27-2001, 03:21 AM

Can't believe this. I should read this thing more regularly.

Today I bought a SampleCell/TDM combo and now I read it may be discontinued!!!

I hope!! it will still be useful for a while ... low Latencey etc.

Maybe Digi will accept it as a trade-in on a DSP card.

Baba Omar Jun

01-27-2001, 06:15 AM

Does it support our old SCII files data (Bank, Instrument Files) or it is totally a new file format? what about my 40 SCII CD-ROMs investment, do we have to throw this all away? I pray that the Soft SC support the old file formats as well....

Baba Omar Jun

01-27-2001, 06:17 AM

NEWNEW

01-27-2001, 07:19 AM

I'm sure it will support SCII CD-ROMs and Akai. Chicken Systems' "Translator" will defintley support Soft Sample Cell translations from these formats and more.

The person who said "64 Voices 128 meg RAM (MAX)", I hope that means per instants of Soft Sample Cell (meaning you can open more than one).

Rail Jon Rogut

01-27-2001, 11:18 AM

I'm wondering if we SC hardware owners will be offered any upgrade path...???

Rail

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michael c

01-27-2001, 02:20 PM

It doesn't use a DSP chip, strictly Native. Don't know if you can open up more than one SoftCell at a time.............

Bryan

01-27-2001, 03:52 PM

native, cool! can i run it on my powerbook G4 with protools free?

the thought is making me shudder with nervous anticipation.

(yes, i need to get a life.)

haze

01-27-2001, 06:49 PM

Great news, it will definitely be on my list of "must haves". Hopefully it will be able to read akai discs.

haze

www.johnhaze.com (http://www.johnhaze.com)

Bryan

01-28-2001, 12:55 AM

...can this be true? i'd given up hope.

would this piece o kit require a tdm chip or run in native ram ala unity.

btw, unity is a piece of juvenile kit.

Bryan

01-28-2001, 07:24 AM

will this nifty softcell benefit from a dualie mac, or will such a performance boost not be feasible until osX? Unity seems to be able to get at it (the second processor, that is).

also, and related, will you only be able to open one 'bank', thereby being limited to 64 voices?

FOX digital

01-28-2001, 05:45 PM

michael c

you did see one at NAMM. So i guess your info about the price and specs is accurate.
Is there a link somewhere. I would like to
get more info and some picts.

Regards
Claude

michael c

01-28-2001, 08:19 PM

Guys.......... I saw a beta version at NAMM. I don't work for Digi so I don't know much about it, but one of the Digi guys at NAMM loaded it up and did a short demo for. So it's definitely not Vaporware. He told me it would be less than $400.00 and be out by April. That's all I know. It looked very cool I will say.

Bryan

01-29-2001, 10:28 AM

Michael C,

When you saw the beta, did it look just like the current software editor? No new features? Someone on DAWmac said that softcell looked just like our current Samplecell.

thanks for the info.

PastaViking II

01-29-2001, 05:22 PM

Two samplers with TDM support have been announced at NAMM by other people than Digi:

http://www.emagic.de/english/namm2001/products/exs24tdm.html

AND

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM01/Content/Sonic_Reality/PR/Sonic-Synth.html

As a SC Nubus/SCII Nubus/SC II PCI TDM owner since time immemorial I think that Godot will appear before Digi in this case....

michael c

01-30-2001, 12:50 AM

Sorry Bryan, but I've never owned Sample Cell so I don't know what their current editing software looks like............ It is 24 bit capable though.

mike connelly

01-30-2001, 09:10 AM

From what I understand, the emagic sampler only works with logic, so it's not really an option for PT users.

Mike

J Fernandez

01-31-2001, 09:52 PM

Does anyone know if its gonna be a TDM or direct connect program?and what about latancy? http://duc.digidesign.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

Stratman

02-03-2001, 12:36 AM

Bumping to the top to see if Digi will answer some of the questions posted here.

ppine

02-03-2001, 05:46 PM

Direct connect, Direct I/O, and Sound Manager as output options..and uses a modified SCII editor app.

Looks and acts just like it used too, just with more voices, and 24 bit.

http://duc.digidesign.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

Baba Omar Jun

02-04-2001, 03:25 AM

Still need OMS or it's own MIDI driver?

Baba Omar Jun

02-04-2001, 03:28 AM

Still need OMS or it's own MIDI driver?

klo

02-04-2001, 06:51 AM

Hello,

this new Emagic "TDM" sampler seems to be not very different to the well known EXS24 native version except there is a Direct Connect capability now. Am i wrong? :-)

Klaus

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PastaViking II:
[B]Two samplers with TDM support have been announced at NAMM by other people than Digi:

http://www.emagic.de/english/namm2001/products/exs24tdm.html

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J Fernandez

02-04-2001, 09:35 AM

When is Digi planing on posting more info on this????

[This message has been edited by J Fernandez (edited February 04, 2001).]

Eric Lambert

02-04-2001, 06:10 PM

Now, can I still use my existing SC cards while SoftSampleCell is operating. I wonder how this works... I still want to be able to use the pci cards I have along with SoftSC so that I can gain the extra voices, outputs, 24bit, etc. but how do you think the application will do this? Hopefully, the SoftSC app will be able to operate the pci cards as well as it's software-only playback. Otherwise I'll need two seperate SampleCell editors open at once. That doesn't make any sense.

Nick Batzdorf

02-04-2001, 09:59 PM

Why wouldn't you be able to use both?

ppine

02-05-2001, 12:45 AM

Still an OMS driver...

Avid

02-05-2001, 07:34 AM

This product is still in early development stages, and months away from release. We gave a sneak peak at the NAMM show of an alpha version. Because the product is still in development, we can't give complete details at this time and have not officially announced the product.

We can answer one of your questions, though. Soft SampleCell will also support the existing SampleCell hardware, without modification of the cards. It will be able to run hardware and software at the same time using the same interface.

We will provide more details as they become available, including expected release date when that has been determined. We're pleased that you are interested in this. http://duc.digidesign.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

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Bruce Paine
Digidesign

clarpark

02-05-2001, 11:33 AM

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Hey digi,
How about incorporating the needs for sample cell into PT? i.e. Midi triggering storable sets of regions.
And/Or "caps-lock" turns keys into triggers like a drum machine.
Thanks for all the new goodies in 5.1 but, us programmers need more consideration. This whole Logic sequencer issuse is an issue because digi is not addressing the needs of the creative users. I'm and ex-synclavier writer/producer and am still waiting for PT to outdo my 10 year old NED workstation. It can happen.

J Fernandez

02-05-2001, 03:06 PM

All i have to say! TDM!!! TDM!!! TDM!!!

J Fernandez

02-05-2001, 03:07 PM

All i have to say! TDM!!! TDM!!! TDM!!!

Bryan

02-06-2001, 12:44 AM

Pres Paine,

Thanks for the update! Quite unusual for digi, but very much appreciated in this case. We're excited about this product and wish you all the best as you develop it.

This probably belongs in the samplecell forum...but I hope you all find away to give it more voice and memory capabilities than the above stated 64 voice/128 ram...and I must agree with the above that embedding samplecell within PT sure would offer some serious synclavier-like advantages.

Godspeed,

Bryan