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Old 12-07-2011, 01:54 PM
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Default Eleven Rack Expression Pedal

Just saw this on my Facebook page and checked it out. Pretty pricey IMO, but definitely a step (no pun intended) in a good direction:
http://bit.ly/sw_EP11S
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack Expression Pedal

Yeah I've seen this pedal before. I actually think it came out about a year ago or so but was only available direct from Mission. Its actually $10 cheaper if you buy it directly from them http://www.mission-engineering.com/M.../Products.html

Though it 'may' be cheaper from Sweetwater once shipping is figured in.

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Never Mind, I was thinking of the original 11R Mission pedal (EP11) this one is the EP11-S
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack Expression Pedal

I'm curious as to how it works as a switch as well. IIRC, the original EP11 had no switch.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack Expression Pedal

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I'm curious as to how it works as a switch as well. IIRC, the original EP11 had no switch.
I don't understand how this would work with the current 11R.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:16 AM
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I don't understand how this would work with the current 11R.
Exactly.

The only thing I can think of is that the switch creates a short in the circuit. I will try an experiment to see if pulling out the expression pedal cable shuts off the wah. It might be specific to the "EP11" option in the 11Rack.

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The best part of the EP-11-S, though, is that it has a toe switch to engage/disengage your effect of choice! That means that when you're playing your Eleven Rack, you don't have to tapdance to engage a wah on your MIDI foot controller, then go to your expression pedal to work the effect, then move to your MIDI controller to turn the effect off. Just rock the EP-11-S forward until the toe switch clicks on, just like a real wah pedal. If you're looking for a realistic and convenient interaction with your Eleven Rack's effects, you want the Mission Engineering EP-11-S expression pedal!
Maybe it has a midi port or something, who knows!? What I do notice is that this has an extra 1/4" out, the orignal ep11 only had one.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack Expression Pedal

Alas, the 11R only has one expression pedal input, so there's no port on the 11R to hook that extra 1/4" cable to.

I think you need an external box to covert the toe switch to a MIDI CC.

Or maybe someone jumped the gun and 11R mk11 will have two expression ports?

I don't even see this switch option on the Mission site.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:35 AM
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Alas, the 11R only has one expression pedal input, so there's no port on the 11R to hook that extra 1/4" cable to.

I think you need an external box to covert the toe switch to a MIDI CC.

Or maybe someone jumped the gun and 11R mk11 will have two expression ports?

I don't even see this switch option on the Mission site.
I know. I'm thinking the other 1/4" is either for a dual ts to TRS cable, or to a midi controller with expression pedal input. Again, maybe removing the pedal while the wah is engaged turns off the wah pedal.

It's fairly new, and again "Sweetwater Exclusive" whatever that means. But it is odd that it's not on mission's website.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:01 AM
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Yeah, I'd like to get to the bottom of this soon. I plan on buying a Mission pedal.

Since we're never going to get "expression pedal auto-engage" judging by how long that request has been on IdealStale, this two 1/4" plug seems to be one of the few options unless you buy a controller with built in foot pedals.

The 11R guys did an excellent job on the user interface for this box. The only complaint I have is the engaging the Wah. They either need auto-engage, or they need to have at least 2 expression ports.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Eleven Rack Expression Pedal

I sent an email to both Sweetwater and Mission to get an answer on how this will work.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:12 PM
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From Mission:

The Ep-11-S is designed to work with the Eleven Rack, but in conjunction with a midi foot controller such as the Voodoo Lab Ground Control Pro. Simply put, plug both outputs into the GCP, and then Midi into the Eleven Rack.



http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GControlPro/

.....meaning Sweetwaters sight is misleading
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