How's life in ProTool-land?

[Bruce Paine]

Originally Posted by G-Sun

Hi!
I don't have ProTools, but I'm curious if I've missed anything.
Geir

I personally don't think you should buy any version of Pro Tools immediately, especially on a limited budget.

What I would do first is get a better idea of how it works by looking at some of the numerous videos available on YouTube and elsewhere (There is a link to the Avid pro tools videos in the Links section at the top of the forum). Search Google for videos with the search term Pro Tools.

In addition, and better still, if you know someone with Pro Tools, see if you can observe them doing some work. And if they have the time and inclination, ask them to show you how to do something like you would do in your normal workflow.

After that, and you feel like you want to get more hands on with trying it yourself, you can look into buying an iLok and downloading the demo version of Pro Tools.

But I think you can get a lot of information before you have to spend any money. And by watching more experienced users with Pro Tools, you can get a better idea of how you would like to work, rather than seeing whether or not you like a program by buying it and starting with no experience at all.

Whether you do buy it or not, there are a lot of tutorial resources out there, some free, some paid, that can really help. And of course you can learn a lot just by spending time browsing this forum.

Just my opinion, given your particular situation.

[zedhed]

In addition to the good advice given above, I would suggest (depending on ones current level of understanding) learning the basics of sound engineering per se.

Anyone who has a good basic knowledge about this will benefit greatly by being able to use any software program since apart from their different layouts/configurations/unique capabilities, they essentially all do much the same thing.

[Craig F]

Originally Posted by ThunderKyss

I may have missed them, but I don't see many "top" producers or engineers visiting here. Lot's of pros, no doubt... But the guys being interviewed by SoS or EQ... not so much.

I know some that read and/or post under false names so there not swamped with how do you do... or can I intern for you questions

[scrnplyr]

I've used PT off and on for 13 years and I don't think it's any more intimidating than learning to play the guitar or playing a showcase for the president of Sony records who then refuses your mgr's calls. But seriously yes there is a badass learning curve for all the PT options and variables and there's the expense-but if you love to record music would you rather have a peavy or a rectifier? (I have both but u get the point)

I recorded at Cornerstone Studios in the 90s which featured a 64 channel flying faders Neve board that cost a lot of money and my first PTs rig was 100x more advanced and didn't cost a lot of money compared to...

Yeah, I'm a fan and it looks like PT 11 will be exponentially better - what more can u ask for from an idea that exists on a screen that is essentially trillions of 1s and 0s?

[Oblique]

Originally Posted by scrnplyr

I've used PT off and on for 13 years and I don't think it's any more intimidating than learning to play the guitar or playing a showcase for the president of Sony records who then refuses your mgr's calls. But seriously yes there is a badass learning curve for all the PT options and variables and there's the expense-but if you love to record music would you rather have a peavy or a rectifier? (I have both but u get the point)

I recorded at Cornerstone Studios in the 90s which featured a 64 channel flying faders Neve board that cost a lot of money and my first PTs rig was 100x more advanced and didn't cost a lot of money compared to...

Yeah, I'm a fan and it looks like PT 11 will be exponentially better - what more can u ask for from an idea that exists on a screen that is essentially trillions of 1s and 0s?

Seriously, why PT would be a "rectifier"?? because it's better than an analog console? have you ever tried others DAW?? please, I don't understand why a lot of people love PT, I really can't understand, I'm speechless, also experienced people like you seems to be... I will laugh Are all those people on gearslutz, here and everywhere kidding ME?? Haha, you are kidding me What can I expect from an audio products company if these are the clients expectations? ah yes... PT!
I'm not a spammer, I think this is my last post here, I can't resist this time.
sorry

I mean, if you like PT ok, it's a fact, but please don't say PT is the best of the best. This is ridiculous, people buy it on these statements.

[zedhed]

Originally Posted by Oblique

Seriously, why PT would be a "rectifier"?? because it's better than an analog console? have you ever tried others DAW?? please, I don't understand why a lot of people love PT, I really can't understand, I'm speechless, also experienced people like you seems to be... I will laugh Are all those people on gearslutz, here and everywhere kidding ME?? Haha, you are kidding me What can I expect from an audio products company if these are the clients expectations? ah yes... PT!
I'm not a spammer, I think this is my last post here, I can't resist this time.
sorry

I mean, if you like PT ok, it's a fact, but please don't say PT is the best of the best. This is ridiculous, people buy it on these statements.

Wow that post looks like it's been written by a five year old

BTW, can you point out where someone said PT is "the best of the best" or did you chose those words from your interpretation of someone saying PT is the Industry Standard?

Sounds like you have an axe to grind.

[peter5992]

Originally Posted by G-Sun

Hi!



ProTools has been an industry-standard for audio-production for a long time.

I don't have ProTools, but I'm curious if I've missed anything.

Especially, I'm curious about this forum.



I'm a Reaper-user and in our forums we have a lot of newbies, bedroomproducers and people taking their first steps. Many pros as well, but I sometimes wonder what it would be like, being on a forum with so may top producers, mixers and engineers.

So, please tell me: How's life in ProTool-land?



Geir

Hi Geir:

Are you the same G-Sun from the Reaper forums? I think I have seen you posting on the Reaper forums from time to time. You're from Norway, right?

What would you want to use Pro Tools for? Frankly, I only use Pro Tools for post production audio. For midi composition, or for quickly editing live recorded sounds Reaper is vastly superior. In fact, Reaper is fine for post production audio as well, however I want to work in an environment where I can swap sessions with professional studios where PT is still standard.

[Oblique]

Originally Posted by zedhed

Wow that post looks like it's been written by a five year old

Wow, thank you, are you referring to my lenguage property or at my contents?

Originally Posted by zedhed

BTW, can you point out where someone said PT is "the best of the best" or did you chose those words from your interpretation of someone saying PT is the Industry Standard?

" but if you love to record music would you rather have a peavy or a rectifier? (I have both but u get the point)"
PT IS a standard.
BTW, can you point out where someone said PT is "the Industry Standard" or did you chose those words from your interpretation of someone saying PT is a "rectifier"?

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by Oblique

Wow, thank you, are you referring to my lenguage property or at my contents?


" but if you love to record music would you rather have a peavy or a rectifier? (I have both but u get the point)"
PT IS a standard.
BTW, can you point out where someone said PT is "the Industry Standard" or did you chose those words from your interpretation of someone saying PT is a "rectifier"?

First things first:
I think zedhed was referring to both your language skills (property as you say) AND the content of your post. Amateurish at best. Of course if English is not your first language and you're working through an online translator than apologies are in order but if not then the opinion still stands.

Nobody said PT is a rectifier - that was your interpretation. As to PT being an industry standard those words have been used many times before by many people in the audio industry/world. Used in more studios than any other daw. True there are some studios that use other daws instead of PT or alongside PT.

edit for additional thoughts:
I've read your other posts here and you seem to have a real angst against Pro Tools. You seem to be more comfortable with Logic or another daw that has features you like that work differently in PT. You want to bend PT to your will and are frustrated you can't do it and want it to be changed so you can do so. Truth is that isn't going to happen as there are a LOT of people out there that are get along quite well with PT as is. They learn to work with the system and features which I suggest you might want to do so as well. You might actually find you like PT as it is.

[Oblique]

Originally Posted by musicman691

First things first:
I think zedhed was referring to both your language skills (property as you say) AND the content of your post. Amateurish at best. Of course if English is not your first language and you're working through an online translator than apologies are in order but if not then the opinion still stands.

Nobody said PT is a rectifier - that was your interpretation. As to PT being an industry standard those words have been used many times before by many people in the audio industry/world. Used in more studios than any other daw. True there are some studios that use other daws instead of PT or alongside PT.

edit for additional thoughts:
I've read your other posts here and you seem to have a real angst against Pro Tools. You seem to be more comfortable with Logic or another daw that has features you like that work differently in PT. You want to bend PT to your will and are frustrated you can't do it and want it to be changed so you can do so. Truth is that isn't going to happen as there are a LOT of people out there that are get along quite well with PT as is. They learn to work with the system and features which I suggest you might want to do so as well. You might actually find you like PT as it is.

Yes, english is not my lenguage. I'm sorry, I don't use a translator but this is the best I can do to explain myself.
I know that PT is a standard and I think no one can say the opposite. I've never said this.
What I have to say instead is that PT isn't simply different from others diffused DAWs but that it's worst! All is way more complicated, not because it isn't in my habits but because it simply requires more steps for almost everything. For example I've tried ableton and the learn curve was funny, PT is pure frustration.
So, my anger is not only directed to PT but most against all this users that claim it as the most powerful, the fastest etc etc DAW in the market.
I've bought a copy because i want a pc based DAW, based on the reputation I was expecting something decent, nothing more, but I was wrong because this is clearly the most inferior DAW I've tried.