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New Eucon features for Euphonix and not for Icon
Hi all,
I just watched the new video about the PT10 Eucon features for Euphonix consoles, I just wonder if I made to good choice one and a half years ago to buy a 24 faders D-command. To be honest, I feel a bit let down by Avid for the moment .... Sorry to bother you with some negatives thoughts but I wanted to share my feelings. Have a nice day. Pascal
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Re: New Eucon features for Euphonix and not for Icon
Same, I recently blogged about how channel strip isnt icon optimised with its mapping, but more importantly:
CF Plugin Maps has been minorly broken since 9.0 and still no fix - Avid PLEASE get plugin maps to stay enabled when you focus on another channel then return. Im so TIRED of hitting the "MAP" button...its getting worn out!! |
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Re: New Eucon features for Euphonix and not for Icon
I think the D-Control is going to quietly fade away. The D-Command is a trickier one for them. Unless there's something in the wings they don't have anything at that price point in the Euphonix range, even the the System 5MC is quite a bit more expensive, let alone S5 Fusion or System 5. You do get the sense that the ICON is the forgotten stepchild now though, no major new features for quite a while.
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Re: New Eucon features for Euphonix and not for Icon
It is a concern for sure.
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Re: New Eucon features for Euphonix and not for Icon
I was about to do a 24 chan D-comm with my HDX upgrade, but have decided on a 32 channel Artist setup in hopes that in the next 12-18 months there is a Sys 5-MC JR. to fit that void in the middle.
Eucon is clearly the future, and the Artist series continues to improve, and should be a fine upgrade for the interim from my trusty old ProControl. peace Rob Burrell aka mixboy
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Re: New Eucon features for Euphonix and not for Icon
I can't (or don't want to) imagine Avid would let the Icon consoles fade away ....
If they don't "implement" Eucon in the consoles, wouldn't it be the least to have some kind of a "small" Eucon control panel which you could put on your Icon ?
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Re: New Eucon features for Euphonix and not for Icon
I'd be dissapointed if Avid chooses to drop the ICON and focuses on Euphonix MC family. After working for a month on System5/Eucon/PT9 combo, all I can say is that the integration and communication between S5 and PT is ridiculously inefficient and basic.
To begin with channel mapping - clumsy, unstable, requiring serious re-work after any change in the PT session. Scribble strips are only 4 characters wide, so you have to rename your channels if you want to see any valid info on the desk. One of the things that really shocked me is the LCD screen above the channel strips - it is narrower than those 8 channels it represents, so it is very difficult to identify channels instantly - very un-ergonomic! Channel Automation switches are ridiculous, hard to identify. There's no separate TRIM button! The only thing that really shines is the monitoring section, although, for us that mix sound for film, I'm missing paddles or something else that could be easily identified without looking at. ICON - custom faders, PI mapping, center section - is a dream machine compared to S5. My 2 cents. |
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On the System 5MC, you can map any track(s) in any numbers anywhere on the mixing desk. That means you don't have to set up a preference to the left side or the right side unlike the Icon, neither to decide how many faders will be used for the channel mapping. You just hit LAYOUT, select the tracks you want on the matrix display, hit the WAVE (focus) button on the channel where you want to start your "Custom fader group", hit Layout again and its done! Of course you can also save and rename the layouts and recall them on any soft key of your choice... One thing to remember is even if there is only 56 hardware soft keys there is unlimited amount of layouts you can have. I agree that using LAYOUTS can be tricky at first and found out the best way to work with it is to "Show all tracks" all the time in PT and use the "Replace" Layout mode. In this mode you can save your "banking and nudging" state on the desk as Layouts. This is a quick and dirty way to set layouts but if you add tracks in PT you will have to update your layouts. If you want your layouts to be locked when adding tracks in PT, you have to "direct assign" your layouts which is a bit longer than creating layouts by banking and nudging, but really easy to do. Quote:
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Don't get me wrong, I believe the Icon is a great controller but With a system 5 MC you get eucon commands for everything... and they can be assign anywhere. How better can it be? Of course, this is my humble opinion... and my 2 cents.
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