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AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
Hi all
I wonder if I do something wrong. From Mediacomposter i got a folder with mfx audio and an AAF. First I import (add, Not copy) all audio into session and then I import the AAF. The problem is that all other Metadata beside the scene/take name is lost. The weird thing is, that occasionally on some scenes the tracks have the the correct names like Mix, boom. Lav..... I also tried to import the aaf first and force target format to copy audiofiles to WAV. That does not make a dirrerence. What am I doing wrong? Or is the problem on Mediacomposer side? MFX Problem? Ale
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
Hm, I simply double click on the AAF select (link where possible) and then relink and point PT to where the media is. No need to add all of it to PT first. I never use 'force' or copy as it breaks our workflow in a larger team where everyone has the original avid media.
Have you looked at the meta-data in the work-space before importing? Maybe there was none in the first place?
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
Hi Frank
The metadata is also lost in first place. No Metadata seen When I import AAF only (no metadata seen) Protools does not see any hidden tracks. Only the audiofiles that are seen in the edit window. If I Point to the mfx folder (Fieldrecorder, Save and Index) also non af the multitracks are seen. Multitracks are only seen if I import all audio separetely. But i never see metadata in any import. Sometimes i have a scene where metadata and correct track names are available. So generally it should work. I did a test with nuendo. It the same here. I suspect an error on Mediacomposer/operator side. Why do they change all Multichannel WAV from set to mono mfx files? (1 Channel is seen during import. They are all MonoFiles) Ale
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
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There's no easy way to actively remove meta-data on the MC. I'd rather suspect some semi-pro recorder that simply doesn't do meta-data or the files were processed before import into MC stripping out all meta-data. Could have many reasons why it's gone. Do you have the original BWAVs? If nothing is in those I guess that's the cause. Messed up workflow and/or consumer gear used to record? Look at the original BWAVs,m if they are empty as well, it was messed up during the shoot. Or someone remove the meta-data somehow before import. Or they used a meta-data intransparent third party machine to sync the dailies but I donIt think there is one. You'll know more when you look at the BWAVs from set.
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
Thanks Frank
I will have a look into the originals. In Mediacomposer the tracknames are imported I do not understand where they get lost but I will investigate together with the production company Ale
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
But again Frank
When you say you just import AAF und you also get the multichannel files. What do I make wrong cause I only see the track that is in the timeline. Ale
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
have you got view/clip/channel-name active?
In terms of the timeline of course you only get what's in the AAF track-lay, for the other tracks you need to use the expand function. It's part of the field recorder workflow functionality.
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
Hi Frank
Thanks for yout time and input. Yes, all activated. See picture what I see Field recorder expansion gives me all hidden tracks but no metadata. This time the part of this series comes from an Aaton Recorder. The cutter told me that they dont get the metadata from the Recorder and they manually edit names on every take!! They send me the original files. Lets see what happens then. Ale
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
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Since you are German: There's a whole chapter on this workflow with Cantar in the "BVFT-Filmtonguide". Do you have that?
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Re: AAF wirth MFX Audio LOST METADATA
Hi Frank
Thanks for the information. I found it on their Hompage. I forwarded info to cutter and wait for the original files. Ale
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