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Old 10-18-2018, 09:21 AM
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https://www.apogeedigital.com/products/apogee-fx-rack

Dear, Element Series, and Ensemble Thunderbolt owners,

It’s finally here!

Apogee FX Rack makes its debut today with a limited initial release of 4 native plugins. EQP-1A, Opto-3A, ModEQ 6 and ModComp will be rolling out exclusively to registered Element Series and Ensemble Thunderbolt customers by email.


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With this Limited Initial Release v1.0, Apogee unveils the native version of our Apogee FX Rack Plugin system. The complete system will be released in a series of regular updates through the end of November 2018.

System Requirements

Mac OS X 10.12.6 or higher, 10.14 Mojave fully supported
4 GB minimum RAM, 8 GB or higher recommended
The iLok License Manager needs to also be installed on your computer
Pace iLok account, free from https://www.ilok.com/#!registration - physical iLok not required
Officially Supported DAW's

Logic Pro 10
Pro Tools 12, Ultimate ( ProTools 11 and lower not currently supported
Ableton Live 10
Cubase 9.5 VST 1 & 2 ( VST 3 not implemented in this release )
Please note that any AUv2, VST 1&2m, or AAX fully compliant DAW should work
View ApogeeFX Rack Website
To install the Apogee FX Rack plugin:

Download the Mac installer: HERE
Visit ilok.com, create an account
Download and install the iLok License Manager
In your DAW, open the Apogee FX Rack plugin

5. Click on any of the four FX - ModComp, ModEQ, Opto-3A or EQP-1A.

6. In the Activation window, click “Try” not "Activate" - Activation codes coming with the full release.


7. In the License Account Login window, enter your iLok account credentials; click “Create new account” if you don’t have an iLok account.


8. In the Select a Location window, select the activation location - the Apogee FX Rack supports Hard Disk and iLok 2-3 locations.


This process starts a 30-day Trial period for the selected FX. Remaining FX Trial periods may be launched independently.

When the Initial Release period is complete by end of November 2018, Full licenses for all FX will be distributed to all Element and Ensemble registered owners.B
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Apogee FX Rack

Can someone help me find a DSP chart showing the maximum DSP plugin for the Element and Thunderbolt interfaces? I can’t find it anywhere on there Website.

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Old 10-18-2018, 11:47 AM
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I'm not an Apogee Rep - I just thought there may be folks interested in the fact that Apogee released plug ins.
Also you realize these are native right?
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Apogee FX Rack

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I'm not an Apogee Rep - I just thought there may be folks interested in the fact that Apogee released plug ins.
Also you realize these are native right?
I see you have an Apogee Ensemble and Element please post your findings when you get around to it. I’m just curious to know how powerful the DSP capability is. I’m sure this informations got to be somewhere. I looked in the FAQ. I don’t understands why it’s so hard to find or am I missing something about how the DSP part works.
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Old 10-18-2018, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Apogee FX Rack

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I'm not an Apogee Rep - I just thought there may be folks interested in the fact that Apogee released plug ins.
Also you realize these are native right?
Look again, they are native for any DAW user but also have DSP versions for Ensemble and Element users.

OTOH, Apogee are on some *serious* drugs with these prices.. I really hope people aren't stupid enough to pay it cause of the name.. That EQ is so limited compared to pro Q2 and even $39 IIEQ Pro, for $149.. another pultec EQ for $149? Yeah, right.
The bundle for $450? 4 basic plugins for $450.. what weirdos.

The only one that might be interesting is the $99 LA3A, since the waves one is crap, and this has added a wet/dry and a highpass, very worthwhile features. THAT one does something extra for an LA3A.. but the other plugins, especially the "mod" series, are "JADPL" just another digital plugin. Basic comp and EQ plugins for 149 a piece.. my head is spinning.. If you want to spend $149 on a compressor, do yourself a favour and get arousor on the Avid special if it's still available at 149:)

Oh, a mod should move this to plugin sub forum.
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Old 10-18-2018, 10:56 PM
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It’s interesting days, but I am not sure I would give high marks to Apogee Digital for how they have launched all this... just look st the confusion here about native vs DSP.

In one way Apogee likely wants to set pricing similar to UAD, to set expectations their plugins are as good. In another kudos to them for supporting native as well as onboard DSP. That’s a hassle for some UAD workflows. But one if the hassles with the great UAD plugins are they are so good that you want to buy more and it all can get expensive fast.... and then you are locked in forever.

On the other hand I think Apogee need to really prove they have something great here and lots more coming to counter the lead UAD has, which to me would be more pushing out incredibly aggressive priced starter packs to their current users and getting word of mouth marketing going. Play the long game, right now it looks more short game, with some hiccups getting stuff to market timely, and then expecting current users to cough up for plugins at UAD pricing.

Personally it’s also an issue they don’t have a DSP story with symphony as I really like the modularity of that interface.
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: Apogee FX Rack

To Darryl, others

''Personally it’s also an issue they don’t have a DSP story with symphony as I really like the modularity of that interface.''


Would you consider the Symphony MkII a worthwhile hardware upgrade with its modularity.


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Old 10-19-2018, 08:40 PM
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It’s interesting days, but I am not sure I would give high marks to Apogee Digital for how they have launched all this... just look st the confusion here about native vs DSP.

In one way Apogee likely wants to set pricing similar to UAD, to set expectations their plugins are as good. In another kudos to them for supporting native as well as onboard DSP. That’s a hassle for some UAD workflows. But one if the hassles with the great UAD plugins are they are so good that you want to buy more and it all can get expensive fast.... and then you are locked in forever.

On the other hand I think Apogee need to really prove they have something great here and lots more coming to counter the lead UAD has, which to me would be more pushing out incredibly aggressive priced starter packs to their current users and getting word of mouth marketing going. Play the long game, right now it looks more short game, with some hiccups getting stuff to market timely, and then expecting current users to cough up for plugins at UAD pricing.

Personally it’s also an issue they don’t have a DSP story with symphony as I really like the modularity of that interface.
good points.

I just want to add, even if the plugins are good (and yes I agree it's cool there are native and dsp version, like what steinberg did with UR824 dsp plugins), there is no reverb (is the dsp even powerful enough for it?).

That's one of the most important monitoring tasks for DSP.. and is also the most processor intensive at low latency if using a native system.. for example, I can run 32 avid compressors at 64 buffer with 32 tracks armed, and have lower cpu than adding just one (high quality) verb on an aux send with 32 tracks armed.

Apogee need to add a reverb stat if they are seriously going to market their interfaces as DSP solutions..

Look, all kidding aside, my issue with my nasty previous post were the prices of the plugins for native users.. cause i KNOW people are going to buy them in droves cause "they are apogee".

I am sure they are ok plugins, and free for their compatible interface users.. and really, if they add a verb, then EQ, comp and verb is all one really needs to monitor any kind of mix (as long as the dsp can handle an EQ and comp on every channel).
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Old 10-19-2018, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Apogee FX Rack

I'm not buying any more software plugins. Slate, waves c76, and avid stuff is fine for me. Only hardware from now on.
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:16 PM
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Me too. I just got plug-in controlled hardware from Wes Audio; their SSL-style Hyperion compressor and their Dione EQ. I also have an actual SSL 500 series buss compressor, and the Wes stuff equals it in sound plus has a Mix control among other things. It sounds so much better than any of the many software SSL-type buss compressors I've purchased over the years, plus it can do recall from the plug-in controller. I wish more companies would do this. Obviously can't go hardware all the way, but in a few places in the chain it makes such a difference.
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