i7 vs Xeon & Cores vs GHZ

[Meads]

Originally Posted by jasonthurley

This is not a valid test when you switch hardware for the last processor... just saying.

Didn't say this is a scientific result. And I didn't switch hardware. The i7 is the machine at my studio, the i5 is at home and I replaced that one with the i7 3770K. I just ran the same session on all configurations while I was at it, and thought I'd share the results.

I pointed out the differences in the original thread, so people could take or leave from it what they please.

[john1192]

also, with 3 processors on the i5 and then 7 proc's and 11 proc's on the i7 ... might try using the shappire on the 3930 and just limit the proc's to be the 7 to match the 3770 ... take the audio hardware out of the equation ...

might make a better Control for your test ... thanks for doing this, it really helping me learn what will be the best for a DAW PC build ...

we assume that you are overclocking your i5 ... and that this is ONE computer for the 1st two measurements .... then an 8 core (using 7) for the 3770 i7 then the HDN computer with 12 cores (using11) with the 3930 6 core

john

[john1192]

hey meads, just saw our reply after i hit send ... no worries it all helps to get a grip on the options out there even if not scientific ... can you post the session you used - i will put it up on my system while i have PT11 trial running for the next 8 days ...

cheers

john

[jasonthurley]

Originally Posted by Meads

And I didn't switch hardware.

How is this possible when you go from using a Saffire 3rd party interface to an Avid Native Card?? Is that not changing hardware?

The last processor should have been done on the same setup (Saffire interface) for the results to be valid, thats all Im saying. I could not determine which i7 chip works better based on this test (the i5 versus i7 is also of no use as the results of that are already known to run much faster so that part of the test is redundant.)

From what I have read, heard from others and seen in other tests is that the i7 chipset is the most sought after....

[Meads]

Originally Posted by john1192

hey meads, just saw our reply after i hit send ... no worries it all helps to get a grip on the options out there even if not scientific ... can you post the session you used - i will put it up on my system while i have PT11 trial running for the next 8 days ...

cheers

john

Hiya,

don't see why I should've limited the 3930K's capabilities for this comparison. This doesn't make sense to me.
I can't send you the session, this is a project I have been working on. Also it would be a coincidence if you had all the plugins I used.

Originally Posted by jasonthurley

How is this possible when you go from using a Saffire 3rd party interface to an Avid Native Card?? Is that not changing hardware?

The last processor should have been done on the same setup (Saffire interface) for the results to be valid, thats all Im saying. I could not determine which i7 chip works better based on this test (the i5 versus i7 is also of no use as the results of that are already known to run much faster so that part of the test is redundant.)

From what I have read, heard from others and seen in other tests is that the i7 chipset is the most sought after....

Dude, what's your problem? Breathe. If you don't like it, just keep out. As I said, this wasn't meant to be a comparison with a scientific conclusion.
The 3930K is an entirely different computer in an entirely different location, than the other machine. I couldn't switch interfaces if I wanted.
Do I really have to repeat everything I stated in the last post? Read carefully and process the given information, please.

[john1192]

the i5 is at home and I replaced that one with the i7 3770K ...

can you help us understand this ? as a sidenote only: was this a system upgrade (MB, Proc, Ram,PS) or NEw Pre-built system ...

thank s man

[Meads]

Originally Posted by john1192

the i5 is at home and I replaced that one with the i7 3770K ...

can you help us understand this ? as a sidenote only: was this a system upgrade (MB, Proc, Ram,PS) or NEw Pre-built system ...

thank s man

Sorry, I thought I made myself clear.
Again:

- The 3930K is the computer I use at the studio. It runs PT HD Native.

- The i5 was the CPU in my computer at home. I upgraded this CPU to the i7 3770K.

- Both, the 3930K and the 3770K are overclocked

[john1192]

copy that ... on the 2 systems and not being able to make them more alike ... and on the Not Hindering the 3930 down ... i was just curious if while you were "in there" you might have tested the same # of proc .... cheers

i am still a little unclear ... i am looking for more power to run VI's at smaller buffer sizes without snap, crackle, and pop ... and a better feel for me and other musicians ... as once there is enough for this, you are covering ALL the other bases (mixing, mastering, Live Capture, Composing, sound design, editing, etc ... ) as VI's are the worst offenders / most power hungry - larger sample libraries for Pianos and such ...

as i am thinking Now .. it is better to have more Speed (GHZ) for VI's .... ???

and that the i7 is better for VI's ???

where am I going wrong ?? please, i am not afraid to be wrong ...

i am running Xeon Dual Server Proc in this macpro 3,1 ... albeit old and it can choke on Ivory at 32 / 64 samples in Standalone mode let alone within a DAW ...

[Meads]

The i7 3930K is known for its overclockability. Just google for some reviews. People are running it with 4.8GHz just fine.

[john1192]

my head is spinning from watching youtube and reading reviews regarding the i7 3770k and the 3930k ...

the heat becomes the issue with the OC'ing ... and for me heat means fans or bigger coolers and maybe more noise / i work from home and do not want to have any more noise than needed ... yes, looking at better quiet fans and cases and learning more each day ..

(this IS my first DAW for PC build, but i have a fair understanding and have been helping friends for years with their Kludgy PC's over the years) ... i have modded a few Mac's in my day with Proc's and things but never true start from scratch build for ME ... as Apple is not giving ME & some of the the professional market what it needs at this time ...

so higher Speeds AND more cores for VI's ... what about the i7 / Xeon question ...

and yes, i am being selfish and just speaking of my needs and what I am getting out of this thread .... sorry for that ... but maybe my real world ignorance will help some other lost soul on the journey to DAW nirvana ...

cheers

john