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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
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I have however got many bugs squashed by providing clear-cut examples that are reproducible by the AVID team. If you can't be arsed to spend a bit of down time working through it then you're gonna just have to live with it. |
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This bug is too random to for me to "arsed" to spend my non downtime to replicate.......as you can read it has been with PT for YEARS. You're right I can either live with it - or I can vent my frustrations on this forum (as a customer has a right to) or move on to another DAW, which I have said in this thread opening.
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Sample rounding is an issue that you need to understand, not a bug, and the Avid post you link to is not a bug report but an explanation of how sample rounding works and how to avoid it. To show that there's a bug, you'd have to show an instance where you trim a clip (or enter trim values) in grid mode and show that the boundaries are in fact not grid aligned. Again, I'm not saying it can't happen, or that there's *not* a bug, but nothing you've shown looks like a bug yet. best, rich
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http://www.richbreen.com ---------------------------------------- Mac Studio / Ventura, PT 2023.12.HDX, Avid HD I/Os and Metric Halo ULN8, 3xS1/Dock Also running a Mac Studio Ultra / Ventura / HDX / MTRX / S6 |
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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
I'm not exactly sure when this bug came about but it could be when layered editing was introduced.
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iMac 27" Late 2013 3.5Ghz i7 32GB Ram 3TB HDD, 1TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro, Movaje 10.14.6, Pro tools 2021.7, 2021.3 & 2020.12 installed. UAD Apollo 8 Quad & Satellite Quad, Reason 10.4.1 & Reason Suite 11.3.9, Logic Pro X 10.5.1 (need to upgrade to Catalina for LPX10.6), plugins & VI's by practically everyone. G-Tech Mini 1TB HDD, 3 x 1TB Glyph GT050Q, Lacie Rugged 500GB & several assorted drives.....lots & lots of hardware synths & outboard https://soundcloud.com/2b3productions |
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My images show random incorrect clip alignment on clips that were duplicated, repeated or alt + manual dragged from original clips that are perfect 4 or 8 bar lengths (all in grid mode not relative grid or slip and with ticks selected from project creation). As you can see on the 3rd of my images the midi event editor shows the note at bar position 17|1|000 but it is out of position in the midi editor and the edit window in image 2 - that is a bug. As I have said numerous times it is random only affecting some tempos so extremely hard to replicate without extensive tests that are too time consuming to do.
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iMac 27" Late 2013 3.5Ghz i7 32GB Ram 3TB HDD, 1TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro, Movaje 10.14.6, Pro tools 2021.7, 2021.3 & 2020.12 installed. UAD Apollo 8 Quad & Satellite Quad, Reason 10.4.1 & Reason Suite 11.3.9, Logic Pro X 10.5.1 (need to upgrade to Catalina for LPX10.6), plugins & VI's by practically everyone. G-Tech Mini 1TB HDD, 3 x 1TB Glyph GT050Q, Lacie Rugged 500GB & several assorted drives.....lots & lots of hardware synths & outboard https://soundcloud.com/2b3productions |
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best, rich
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http://www.richbreen.com ---------------------------------------- Mac Studio / Ventura, PT 2023.12.HDX, Avid HD I/Os and Metric Halo ULN8, 3xS1/Dock Also running a Mac Studio Ultra / Ventura / HDX / MTRX / S6 |
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Another is : it would appear that for some users, the clips are not conforming to the grid, despite being in ticks mode and using “grid”. I’ve seen this myself, but I have to be honest in that I’m not sure if it’s because I used relative grid, or moved a part from a samples base to a tick base, or maybe some other user-related thing. But the fact that foxes has this problem would suggest that at the very least the way Tools handles MIDI clips is not as intuitive or user-friendly as it could be... |
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But I do not believe PT has sub-ticks measurement/divisions as (1) why would a 'Pro' DAW have a measurement/division that it does not register on it's counters or anywhere on the software.....if that be the case then that's just stupid from Avid. (2) If it were sub-ticks then it would be a uniform thing across all clips duplicated, repeated etc together....which it does not do, it is random. And (3) when using the trim tool to manually fix these note discrepancies whether you're in grid, relative grid or slip modes it snaps back to bar division shown in the event editor nowhere in between (alleged sub-ticks). The way PT handles midi clips is fine, in terms of duplicating, repeating or alt + manual drag, mirror editing etc. I think that the midi capabilities are also fine albeit a tad 'clunky' as more mouse clicks are required to do certain things & could be shortened (steal ideas from other DAWs - they do ). What I miss is having curves available for midi cc data (& automation but that's another thing ) But that aside, the random incorrect alignment of perfect bar length clips with ticks selected from project creation and in grid mode when either duplicated, repeated or alt + manual dragged is an extremely annoying bug that really effects the basis of modern pop, edm composition/production.
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