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Re: Is Pro Tools dying?
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digidesign was kind of like finding a hot wife. avid is like having a hot wife that cheats on you...what's the point. regards, marco |
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Wow, there are a lot of very well thought out posts here. Including many from long time forum members.
For the most part we are a group that really loves this product. Avid management would be wise to read, or better, study this thread and understand where their future will come from. |
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What's the point of trim automation, this for example would not be something that one of the tech at global would say, hey! wouldn't that be great for pro tools, let's make it. They wouldn't code anything that is not on the blue prints that Avid dev team gave them, because they're not there to further develop the product, they're the people making the vision (blue prints and ideas of the dev team) come to fruition by coding it and trying (hopefully) to find solutions to the coding problems that this entails without introducing new problems. I'm not saying one bit that I prefer this than having people at avid doing 100% of the work, just that you're attributing them some failure of new options that is not deserved, since it's not their job to think of new options of the software/hardware. They have a plan that is given to them by avid, and their paid to follow that plan and not deviate from it. Quote:
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It is blatantly obvious that there are many disgruntled 'fans' in Avid-land at present. Whilst company representative input is much appreciated, IMHO it would have been time better spent addressing the 'why' in a broad sense as opposed to narrowing in on what appears to be a reaction to someone sticking a thorn in your side. I accept your wanting to keep the record straight, keeping to facts. But your response goes nowhere near properly dealing with the wider issues being openly and often emotively expressed by those who are for the most part, Avid's most loyal customers.
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I agree that exaggerations and non factual information is unproductive, but it is often indicative of how deep ones feelings are on the subject. Personally I think this is a legitimate subject so I hope it continues with factual information however I think it would be unreasonable to expect it to carry on in a non emotional context. And to be fair, considering the nature of the subject I can understand that applies to both sides of the debate. BTW, I don't think Pro Tools is dead, and I hope it never will be because I love using it. PT4 was the first version I used and am now up to 9. I've decided to skip v10 since I will be needing to upgrade my hardware to use PT 64Bit. I believe developing a 64Bit platform offers a huge opportunity for Avid to get it right and restore our faith and its reputation. I await patiently.
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While it is true that Digi still has some amazing programmers and engineers left, support by some nice coding and features present in PT10, it's also clear that Avid HAS let go a large number of people. In a single press release we read of 200 people being let go. This after quite a few layoffs before. So I doubt 400 to 500 is THAT much of an exaggeration.
Not to mention, many of us here know of specific very talented people who were either let go, or decided to leave Avid and the current environment there. It just be clearer that Avid, as a whole, I'd out of touch and alienating their user base left and right. But yes we know there are good people there still. But Avids support has seemingly become atrocious. Whereas once they seemed quite active here, they rarely post now. Also, if Avid hadn't let go so many people, do you really expect a bug as nasty as has ever occurred in ProTools could have made it into release? A bug where a DAW stops playing audio randomly? Seriously? Or in my own hell, with PT10 and my HD Native card, PLAGUED by 9024, 9026 CPU errors that have rendered my machine useless. Despite numerous posts here by myself and others, despite me KNOWING that Digi is aware of it, the DUC has received absolute silence on this issue. How can these issues exist except in a company dangerously understaffed. When emails to support can take weeks to get responded too? The actions of Avid, it's decisions just show to a lot of us how much trouble the company seems to be in. |
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Yawn....
How many of these topics have been posted over the years. Stop nagging and start working. Avid (MediaComposer & video) and Avid (Digidesign) are great tools and should be seen as such - there simply is no competition. I have been using Digidesign since Qsheet AV in the late '80's al the way through Sound Tools and Protools (from V1.01 to 9.03). When Avid took over I worried for a short while since Avid is not well supported in my country - I know because I also owned Media Composer since 2001. But the fact that AVID managed to stay alive in the face of FCP etc etc says a lot. It is tough times out there. I am not going to upgrade to 10 now, simply because it does not make sense financially. But I will look forward to getting a stronger, faster system when I can afford it. Protools has its quirks, but I have managed to make a living using it as my primary tool for more than twenty years - a few hickups along the way, but very very stable on v9. If Protools were to die, I for one, would be in deep [bleep][bleep][bleep][bleep]. Now get back to work |
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Interesting stuff and also a rather painful read here and there.
Ah well, I don't write much here these days, but I'll say this: Some of it reminds me a bit of the general rumormongering on the internet. We get a sense of that we have access to information that we can make informed decisions on. We speak as if we know things and then speculation starts from there and we are rather lost. It is not a logically sound way of assessing things, and a tiresome one for those that go about it. What goes on financially is one thing and I will not try to comment on that for the above reasons, other than that it is a dog eat dog world and I don't tend to be impressed by that aspect of any company. Pro Tools? The actual software/hardware/environment still rocks, if you take the time to RTFM and study and yes, do some workarounds. Apples and pears, but their is nothing quite like it out there for what I do and 10 is the best version of PT I personally have ever tried. I really hope Avid finds a way to develop and sustain it. fwiw, ymmv |
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