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Old 03-05-2017, 07:12 PM
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Default Connect 003Rack to Type C USB

I bought a new laptop and don't know how to connect my 003Rack (firewire) via the TypeC USB port. Does anyone know if there is a adaptor solution or something?
Many thanks.

Metabox-Prime-P650HP-Laptop
I/O ports:
1 HDMI output port (with HDCP)
2 Mini DisplayPort 1.3 output Ports
2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (Type-C)
3 USB 3.0 ports (USB3.1 Gen1, 1 x powered USB port, AC/DC)
1 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone / S/PDIF Coaxial output) 1 Microphone Jack
1 S/PDIF output Jack
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)

Slots
6-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)
Three M.2 Card Slots
- 1st for WLAN Combo M.2 2230 Card with PCIe and USB interface
- 2nd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe Gen3 x2/x4 interface
- 3rd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA interface

Communication
Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Integrated 802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN + Bluetooth V4.0 + LE Combo M.2 2230 Card module or
Intel Wireless-N 3165AC, 2x2 BGN +BT V4.0 M.2 2230 (3rd Generation) or
Intel Wireless-N 3168AC, 2x2 BGN +BT V4.0 M.2 2230 (4th Generation) or
Intel Wireless-N 8265AC, 2x2 BGN +BT V4.2 M.2 2230 (4th Generation) or
Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1525, 2x2 AC + BT M.2 1630 Card modules
Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535, 2x2 AC + BT M.2 1630 Card modules

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Old 03-05-2017, 08:31 PM
Darryl Ramm Darryl Ramm is offline
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Default Re: Connect 003Rack to Type C USB

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I bought a new laptop and don't know how to connect my 003Rack (firewire) via the TypeC USB port. Does anyone know if there is a adapter solution or something?
Many thanks.
Nope because we don't know what computer you actually have and what type of USB-C port it has. USB-C can optionally provide USB (and several different versions of that), Thundertbolt and DisplayPort protocols.

USB-C connectors do not provide Firewire, which you need to drive the 003.

If its a MacBook Pro with USB-C with Thunderbolt 3 then Apple makes a a USB-C Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter, and a Thunderbolt 2 to Firewire 800 adapter, then you use a Firewire 800 to 400 adapter or cable. You chain that lot together and it will do what you need.

Most USB-C connector on PCs don't provide Thunderbolt and you can't adapt from them to Firewire.

The time to really worry about this is before you buy a new computer.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:14 PM
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Hi, thanks for your reply. It's a Windows laptop ( I thought I posted in the windows, not mac forum) as I am a Country singer and hence don't have the money to buy an equivalent Mac.
Metabox-Prime-P650HP-Laptop
specs:
I/O ports:
1 HDMI output port (with HDCP)
2 Mini DisplayPort 1.3 output Ports
2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (Type-C)
3 USB 3.0 ports (USB3.1 Gen1, 1 x powered USB port, AC/DC)
1 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone / S/PDIF Coaxial output) 1 Microphone Jack
1 S/PDIF output Jack
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)

Slots
6-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)
Three M.2 Card Slots
- 1st for WLAN Combo M.2 2230 Card with PCIe and USB interface
- 2nd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe Gen3 x2/x4 interface
- 3rd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA interface

Communication
Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Integrated 802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN + Bluetooth V4.0 + LE Combo M.2 2230 Card module or
Intel Wireless-N 3165AC, 2x2 BGN +BT V4.0 M.2 2230 (3rd Generation) or
Intel Wireless-N 3168AC, 2x2 BGN +BT V4.0 M.2 2230 (4th Generation) or
Intel Wireless-N 8265AC, 2x2 BGN +BT V4.2 M.2 2230 (4th Generation) or
Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1525, 2x2 AC + BT M.2 1630 Card modules
Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535, 2x2 AC + BT M.2 1630 Card modules
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:37 PM
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The USB Type-C ports on your laptop only support USB 3.1 Gen 1 (which is to say they are USB 3.0 5Gbps) and not Thunderbolt 3, so no use to you.

Yes you posted on the Windows Forum, I mentioned Macs so you can be clear about the difference, and for example know that you cannot use those Apple adapters on your laptop.

There is no way to connect your laptop to your 003 firewire interface.

You need a different laptop or a different (USB or Ethernet (e.g. Dante)) interface. If you are running old Pro Tools LE that is licensed off the 003 you will also need to upgrade from Pro Tools LE to Pro Tools if using a non-Avid interface.
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Old 03-06-2017, 01:13 AM
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Thanks. I hope you are wrong but I am sure you are right..:)
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:54 PM
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Thanks. I hope you are wrong but I am sure you are right..:)
If I'm wrong and you can find the adapter that will do what you want I'll buy it for you.

Uh I would not let that offer distract you into spending time trying to find that adapter...
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Old 03-08-2018, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Connect 003Rack to Type C USB

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If I'm wrong and you can find the adapter that will do what you want I'll buy it for you.

Uh I would not let that offer distract you into spending time trying to find that adapter...
IS there any adapter going from my DG03 to a new laptop without Firewire to make it work something like USB?
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Old 03-08-2018, 12:19 PM
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IS there any adapter going from my DG03 to a new laptop without Firewire to make it work something like USB?
Looks like my DG03 has limited number of Aux tracks available. Is it anyway to change it?
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Old 03-08-2018, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Connect 003Rack to Type C USB

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IS there any adapter going from my DG03 to a new laptop without Firewire to make it work something like USB?


Only if your laptop has Thunderbolt.

If not, nope.


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Old 03-08-2018, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Connect 003Rack to Type C USB

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IS there any adapter going from my DG03 to a new laptop without Firewire to make it work something like USB?
Most likely not. Best to sell the 003 and get a USB interface

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Looks like my DG03 has limited number of Aux tracks available. Is it anyway to change it?
I have no idea what this means. Pro Tools can have at least 128 AUX tracks and buses if I remember correctly.
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