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Old 06-21-2020, 01:06 AM
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Default Feature request : 7.1.4 bus

Hi,
any chance we could have 7.1.4 bus and panner that can also be mapped to physical outputs as opposed to just 7.1.2?
I know DAPS takes care of it, but this would be handy for installation work, some VR workflows, and probably for Atmos beds? not to mention those of us on Windows
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Old 06-21-2020, 03:23 AM
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Yes. I never understood why they did not do this from beginning
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Old 06-21-2020, 10:56 AM
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Old 06-22-2020, 06:13 AM
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Atmos beds ('fixed' channels) go up to 7.1.2, hence the PT limit.
If you want to address the individual speakers you'll need to make objects. Same goes for the surrounds, for the beds there are only 4 surround channels while there can be many more speakers individually addressed by objects. I'll agree things are wonky because many home cinema configurations only use 4 surrounds speakers matching the 7.1 setup exactly and 4 top speakers where there are 2 speakers per bed channel, but that's the way it is.

7.1.4, of even 9.1.6 would be nice as fixed channels, especially for editorial suites so you can skip the DAPS software/configuration, but it's not only a Protools feature, Dolby would need to support it as an input configuration. (correct me if I'm wrong and they already support this by now)
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Old 06-23-2020, 12:37 AM
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Atmos beds ('fixed' channels) go up to 7.1.2, hence the PT limit.
If you want to address the individual speakers you'll need to make objects. Same goes for the surrounds, for the beds there are only 4 surround channels while there can be many more speakers individually addressed by objects. I'll agree things are wonky because many home cinema configurations only use 4 surrounds speakers matching the 7.1 setup exactly and 4 top speakers where there are 2 speakers per bed channel, but that's the way it is.

7.1.4, of even 9.1.6 would be nice as fixed channels, especially for editorial suites so you can skip the DAPS software/configuration, but it's not only a Protools feature, Dolby would need to support it as an input configuration. (correct me if I'm wrong and they already support this by now)
Thanks for the input, good to hear other perspectives on it. To be honest I'm not too across the DAPS workflow, mainly because I'm on Windows and she no go. I'm more interested in the bussing for MPEG-H so I can do a 7.1.4 mix with quad panning in the elevation and record stems then author in the MPEG-H software, which can be done using the 3rd order ambisonic bus that already exists in PT as your send and return from the HAPI renderer. So it would be useful in a few ways, as well as the edit suite/premix setups that you mentioned without DAPS. I think it would be a useful feature with out without support from Dolby as there's other uses for it.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: Feature request : 7.1.4 bus

Been asking for this for a while. It's true that the initial limitation was based on the Atmos bed. But we still need 7.1.4 and 7.1.6. Here's one example:

Exponential Audio immersive reverbs (which I know a little bit about) are designed to react to the panned position of a signal. If the signal is panned to left side, then all reflections and reverb propagation will begin at the left side. But when the signal is panned to the top, the only information the reverbs have is top left/top right so they can't be as natural as they're capable of being. Nuendo has a larger selection of bus configurations and those reverbs will sound more natural there.

7.1.4 doesn't interfere with Atmos at all. The top corners need to be assigned to objects, so there's some fiddling with busses. But the overall result is much better.
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