Any chance of SSC, or some HTDM softsynths becoming TDM?

[Allan Speers]

Does anyone know if there's any chance that we'll see a true TDM version of Soft SC anytime soon?

There just isn't enough power in even the best Macs to run more than a few D-C apps at once. Plus, HTDM is an awful lot of trouble, compared to TDM. I would gladly by more process-cards if the TDM apps were available.

Digi, here's my vote.

Also, I hope Digi is putting pressure/incentives on companies like Native Insts to make their apps tru-TDM. Digidesign, PLEASE do so!

[wmcintyre]

I completely agree.
Most of the new plug-ins seem to be RTAS with a few HTDM.

Why no HDtdm plug-ins?.

[Renie]

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...=&threadid=295

We've been discussing this over at Gearslutz...

Renie

[Allan Speers]

Interesting thread, but it seems like most of the posters consider HTDM to be the answer. Notice people liking the current NI situation.

We need actual TDM apps, not HTDM.

[etherize]

native instruments have stated flat out that they will NEVER support a dsp architecture. Hence there name...(NATIVE instruments)

[Allan Speers]

Not good. [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

Those four-processor G5's better come along soon!

[mesh]

Hi,

I don't see why everyone is so keen for HTDM for softsynths. Softsynths don't need to be on Aux's or masterfaders, so why waste a whole chip for the streammanager.
RTAS works fines for a native format for softsynths.
I too would like to see more TDM,mainly for latency,but I don't think this going to happen a lot. Good to see RTAS is getting more popular overall.

mesh

[Allan Speers]

Mesh, the advantage of HTDM over RTAS is that you can instantiate on an aux-input. thus, you can have "virtual" sound-playback without having to record the audio.

Unfortunately, there is quite a bit more latency with HTDM.

True-TDM is the way to go.

I would think Digi would be pushing the third-party software guys in this direction, as it would A: give more substance to the whole "TDM is king" thang, and B: sell more dsp-cards.

[bombfactory]

Until you can span chips, it's not worth considering. Even then, it probably won't happen.

We calculated four TDM chips required to do a Hammond B-3. And then another chip for the distortion, and then another chip for the Leslie.

Also, there's not enough memory on the cards to do a sampler... and you can't transfer memory to the card quickly enough from the host.

Even worse: the market for softsynths is tiny. Doing a TDM-only softsynth wouldn't pay off the IMMENSE development required.

--Erik

[Allan Speers]

Thanks, Erik.

You have been a GREAT source of information this year.

How dissapointing this particular information is, though.

Digi had better come out with a more powerful dsp-card, AND FAST.

Even some plugins can't run on them at 96K. -and it's only going to get worse.