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Old 06-24-2012, 01:14 PM
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Default Why yes, this is the successful Hackintosh build thread!

It has come to my attention that there are a number of us here running a Hackintosh of some variation successfully with Pro Tools.

Since Apple loves to drop support for older peripherals and protocols quite regularly for the sake of progress, there is some incentive to build a computer with exactly what you need, such as old PCIx slots and FireWire ports, and still be able to run OSX.

With current skepticism for Apple's commitment to the Pro community, I expect we may see more and more people building their own OSX machines. So, why not have a thread celebrating our successful builds, and helping out those who are interested in making their own?


Before we get started, we'll go over a few ground rules:

Since we don't want any heat, nor to break the TOS of this forum, I would like to reiterate that any discussion of illegal acquisition of software is prohibited. OSX costs $30, and is quite readily available through the AppStore and in stores as a pre-compiled USB key for around $60. Buy OSX, be legit.

Let's also remember that these builds are not officially qualified by Apple or Avid, so anything you do is at your own risk. We are here to to help each other with successful setups, but don't expect Avid to chime in if you're having trouble.



I would also like to iterate that we are not here to discuss the legality or ethics of installing OSX on a 3rd party system. In no court in Canada or the US will you be convicted for installing OSX on a 3rd party system. In the case of Psystar vs. Apple, it was not that they were installing OSX, it was that they were installing OSX on their own systems and selling them for profit. As long as you are building a system for your own use you are not breaking any laws.

Please do not respond to this thread if you are here to debate the morality of installing OSX. This thread will continue under the assumption that it is perfectly legal to install OSX on your own custom build until otherwise noted or proven.



Now, installing OSX on a PC is relatively straightforward, but you will need access to a Mac to create the installers you need. It doesn't take long, and you just need a USB drive with 8GB or more.

For great tutorials on how to get OSX going on custom parts, as well as lists of compatible components, I strongly suggest checking out TonyMac's blog here: http://tonymacx86.blogspot.ca/2011/1...ion-using.html

All the tools you need can also be found there. You'll have to sign up for access to all the files you need, but it's worth the minute or two it takes. Trust me.

If someone has another set of good tutorials they've used, let me know and I'll update this post.


Alright, on to the good stuff!

Let's try to be helpful and consistent, but not take up too much screen real estate. A SANDRA report is not necessary, but if you want to post one, please use an image host, and post it as a screenshot or another external link. Otherwise, just list the main components you're using, along with Pro Tools version, and hardware. If you're using HD, let us know which cards you are using, PCIe or PCIx, etc. Feel free to leave a DVerb test score and/or Geekbench scores as well.

I'll get this party started!


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The only thing I ask of Avid here is, can we get a sticky?
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Why yes, this is the successful Hackintosh build thread!

Isn't the main resource thread for those builds here? Good job on the build by the way. You now have a BIOS that you can optimize specifically for Pro Tools. This has my vote for a sticky for these builds. The future of the Mac Pro is shady and who's going to invest in a 2+ year old Mac Pro by Apple that's promoted as "new" with a "maybe" rumored future product line.

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Old 06-24-2012, 03:15 PM
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Isn't the main resource thread for those builds here? Good job on the build by the way. You now have a BIOS that you can optimize specifically for Pro Tools. I also vote a sticky for these builds. The future of the Mac Pro is shady and who's going to invest in a 2+ year old Mac Pro by Apple that's promoted as "new" with a "maybe" rumored future product line.

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Oooh, there is another thread. Though it seems a bit counter productive to be under the Windows section.

Also, it seems to be more about keeping PCIx cards alive. Though, I certainly understand the appeal.

Either way, whether it's this one or that one, there definitely should be a Hackintosh sticky thread.

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Old 06-24-2012, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Why yes, this is the successful Hackintosh build thread!

There are plenty of places on the internets to find this information hosted by entities that do not have a reason to stay in Apple's good graces. Why would Avid actively endorse this? A blind eye is the most that would be advisable.
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:09 PM
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There are plenty of places on the internets to find this information hosted by entities that do not have a reason to stay in Apple's good graces. Why would Avid actively endorse this? A blind eye is the most that would be advisable.
I agree, and why I encourage going to sites that aren't about abusing Apple. TonyMac's improvements aren't really "hacks" in the traditional sense. All they really do is add drivers and extensions so that OSX recognizes the parts you're using. Certainly more modding than anything else. They also only support official purchases of OSX.

Perhaps by showing Apple we still want to buy OSX but use it on our own systems, they may warm up to the idea. What they should do is release a "developer" build, for say $75, that just has open hardware extensions.
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Why would Avid actively endorse this?
Too continue to sell Pro Tools hardware.

Before we get into a, "but they cant qualify these systems" debate, I'll remind all that there's not one custom PC build sticky with Avid qualified systems either. The PC's have all been "user qualified" for the past 12 years. Those PC build stickies are responsible for selling more Pro Tools rigs than any of their top sales people could ever do.

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Old 06-24-2012, 06:31 PM
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Too continue to sell Pro Tools hardware.

Before we get into a,"but they cant qualify these systems" debate, I'll remind all that there's not one custom PC build sticky with Avid qualified systems either. The PC's have all been "user qualified" for the past 12 years. Those PC build stickies are responsible for selling more Pro Tools rigs than any of their top sales people could ever do.

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Bingo.

Avid's best help is the community that supports itself. That i7 thread is nearly 500 pages long, and is one of main reasons why Windows users even have support. If it weren't for crafty PC builders, all we'd have is a list of crappy Dells, and pricey Macs.
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Too continue to sell Pro Tools hardware.

Before we get into a,"but they cant qualify these systems" debate, I'll remind all that there's not one custom PC build sticky with Avid qualified systems either. The PC's have all been "user qualified" for the past 12 years. Those PC build stickies are responsible for selling more Pro Tools rigs than any of their top sales people could ever do.

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Be fair, Avid's working hard on this.
They just qualified a bunch of Pentium III systems
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Too continue to sell Pro Tools hardware.

Before we get into a, "but they cant qualify these systems" debate, I'll remind all that there's not one custom PC build sticky with Avid qualified systems either. The PC's have all been "user qualified" for the past 12 years. Those PC build stickies are responsible for selling more Pro Tools rigs than any of their top sales people could ever do.

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The real point here is that a Hackintosh is illegal and AVID cannot endorse it just because of that. And no, there's no "interpretation" of illegal here. It's plain illegal. Apple provides all OSX users with an agreement which clearly specifies that it is licensed only for computers built by Apple and forbids any kind of alteration or reverse engineering.

Is it possible to install OSX on a PC? Yes. Is it possible to make it work like the most expensive Mac Pro or even better? Probably yes. Would it be great if Apple released a multi-plattform OSX for PC users? Absolutely. BUT, right now, it's completely illegal to do so.

I'm actually surprised AVID moderators don't delete threads supporting "hackintosh" activity.

And don't take me wrong. I admire the ability and intelligence of the guys that have managed to crack/hack OSX to make it installable on a PC, and I too think Apple should release OSX to more than just Macs. But me and other million people thinking the same doesn't make it legal or right.

Do you see my PC specs on my signature? I tried making it a Hackintosh once, and everything except for my SAS controller worked. I was running OSX with almost the same components as a more than $10,000 Mac Pro. Still, I went back to Windows, because I knew it wasn't right. Anyway, ProTools was working great on both OSs and my "DVerb test" gave me the same results on both.

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I'll second a sticky request. And with that add.

Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
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Samsung 830 64GB SSD
2TB HDD
1000w PSU
OSX 10.6.8
Pro Tools 10.2

I put this together a couple of months ago for well under $1000. I bought most of it used. Guess people are moving on to the new socket 2011 rigs.

Next up, install windows so I can try some mild OC'ing. Also looking for a 6-core CPU. Deals keep getting better and better.

Also I don't remember the exact specs. I'll edit my post ASAP for more detail. If I was doing it again I found a dual socket 2011 Xeon board the looks promising. And two quad core Xeon e5's that aren't too expensive. :)


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