PT12.5 Does NOT fix GUI Lagging as it proclaims

[rynggo]

Hi I am one of the many experiencing serious GUI lagging issues in ProTools when using proprietary (Avid/AIR) plugins. 12.5 proclaims to fix theses issues however it does NOT. Hindsight being what it is, I fully acknowledge that all of my recent Pro Tools issues could have been prevented by simply NOT upgrading to Yosemite.
Blessing in disguise with all of this is that Application Manager stopped working :)

-Ryan
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011)
OSX El Capitan 10.11.4
2.8 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB
PT 12.5
Interface: Roland QuadCapture

[midnightrambler]

Originally Posted by rynggo

Hi I am one of the many experiencing serious GUI lagging issues in ProTools when using proprietary (Avid/AIR) plugins. 12.5 proclaims to fix theses issues however it does NOT. Hindsight being what it is, I fully acknowledge that all of my recent Pro Tools issues could have been prevented by simply NOT upgrading to Yosemite.
Blessing in disguise with all of this is that Application Manager stopped working :)

-Ryan
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011)
OSX El Capitan 10.11.4
2.8 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB
PT 12.5
Interface: Roland QuadCapture

Yeah I uploaded video demonstrating what I have - presumably the same issue as yours? https://vid.me/XLmw
Mine tends to lag even when the compressor isn't doing anything.

I don't even bother signing in to the Application Manager anymore. I got so sick of being reminded my subscription - the one I've actually renewed - was due to expire.

[rynggo]

Yep. Same issue I am having. According to other users (I personally have not tried this) this only occurs using Avid Plugins, which since I am still just starting out, is what I have to rely on. From scouring the forums I see this has been an issue for many since ProTools 11. Yet there is still no fix for it. But at least they've crammed other new buggy features (Cloud Collaboration) in. Heaven forbid someone open a compressor while collaborating on the cloud, a black hole may open up. Lesson learned, the hard way for sure. Mark my words as SOON as I get a chance I am jumping off the Avid train. I'm tired of sacrificing stability for new buggy features.

[rockridge]

I've noticed editing MIDI in 12.5 to be very sticky.
Like moving in mud.

Went back to 12.3.1... unless someone has a solution.

Originally Posted by rynggo

Yep. Same issue I am having. According to other users (I personally have not tried this) this only occurs using Avid Plugins, which since I am still just starting out, is what I have to rely on. From scouring the forums I see this has been an issue for many since ProTools 11. Yet there is still no fix for it. But at least they've crammed other new buggy features (Cloud Collaboration) in. Heaven forbid someone open a compressor while collaborating on the cloud, a black hole may open up. Lesson learned, the hard way for sure. Mark my words as SOON as I get a chance I am jumping off the Avid train. I'm tired of sacrificing stability for new buggy features.

Happens with Waves ones too.. maybe something to do with rendering the gain reduction meter?

[DJ Hellfire]

Originally Posted by rynggo

Hi I am one of the many experiencing serious GUI lagging issues in ProTools when using proprietary (Avid/AIR) plugins. 12.5 proclaims to fix theses issues however it does NOT. Hindsight being what it is, I fully acknowledge that all of my recent Pro Tools issues could have been prevented by simply NOT upgrading to Yosemite.
Blessing in disguise with all of this is that Application Manager stopped working :)

-Ryan
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011)
OSX El Capitan 10.11.4
2.8 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB
PT 12.5
Interface: Roland QuadCapture

Can't even blame Yosemite on this one. Happening on Mavericks as well. The problem is 12.5, not the OS. Smh!

[drguitar]

Not upgrading to YOSEMITE? or El Cap? Your signature says El Cap.

Originally Posted by rynggo

Hi I am one of the many experiencing serious GUI lagging issues in ProTools when using proprietary (Avid/AIR) plugins. 12.5 proclaims to fix theses issues however it does NOT. Hindsight being what it is, I fully acknowledge that all of my recent Pro Tools issues could have been prevented by simply NOT upgrading to Yosemite.
Blessing in disguise with all of this is that Application Manager stopped working :)

-Ryan
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011)
OSX El Capitan 10.11.4
2.8 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB
PT 12.5
Interface: Roland QuadCapture

[rynggo]

drguitar: When I first started experiencing stability issues with ProTools it was after updating to Yosemite.


I talked with ProTools Support and got this for an answer:

"We do currently have this issue tagged as a bug (AAX-1283) and it should be resolved in a future software update. The root cause of the issue has been identified and we are working on the fix.

Please keep your software up to date as new Pro Tools releases come out and the graphical issue with the Dyn3 plug-in should be resolved shortly."

[KV626]

Originally Posted by DJ Hellfire

Can't even blame Yosemite on this one. Happening on Mavericks as well. The problem is 12.5, not the OS. Smh!

I just did a little test. Created a partition with Mavericks on it (10.9.5), on the same SSD as my El Cap installation btw. Installed PT 12.5 on it and opened a recent project, with several plugin windows open: PT meters were smooth and very "responsive" during playback. Opened the same project in El Cap with 12.5, with the same plugs open: meters were all sluggish and the UI was lagging quite a bit. I haven't tried it with Yosemite, and honestly don't really want to...

Hard to tell where the problem really is, maybe a bit of both (OS *and* PT)


But seeing how PT was working under Mavericks, I have to say it's kind of tempting to go back to 10.9 full time... I'll medidate on this during the weekend

[rynggo]

I'm inclined to think the problem is more Avid/PT than anything else. I use a variety of different DAWs and software packages and ProTools is the only one that freaks out every time a new OS update is released. Hell, even Sibelius handles updates better than ProTools.

What I struggle with most is the idea that Avid seems to be perfectly ok having a buggy product on the market that is intended for professionals to use. What audio professional is going to continue to use a product that can't run a simple compressor without the GUI going nuts? What audio professional will want to continue to update a product with known bugs because the company says that " it SHOULD be resolved in a future software update."

It was supposed to be resolved in this software update, or at least it is advertised as such. http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/r...-Release-Notes