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Old 04-03-2003, 10:25 PM
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Default guitar and bass - noise, buzz & hum

It's so bad that it's taken all the fun out of playing these guys. Ironically, my music is mostly sample based electronic/cinematic, but I do play a variety of instruments and once in a while, I like to throw in a live bass or add a few guitar parts for texture, but the buzz, my god the buzz!!!

-Fender Stratocaster - Japanese '57 re-issue, hot railed bottom pick up.
-Fender Jazz bass, pretty standard.

I'll usually do one of two things with these, either run direct into the Penta's instrument input, then SPDIF to 001 or run the guitar through a POD (kidney bean) to analog inputs on 001. Same with bass.

Now I know that single coils are notorious for generating hum, but this is really unbearable. I try different position angles but even then, the hum comes back after a few seconds of silence. I use only good quality cables (Monster Studiolink 500 or ProCo/Neutrik) and I even have an Apple LCD monitor, thinking that would be a big step forward vs. my old CRT, but no, it's almost worse!?

As for what's plugged into where, the Penta sits in a rack with everything plugged into a Furman power strip, while the POD is plugged into a different consumer type strip on a completely different outlet. Prior to that it was also in the Furman with everything else, so I moved it to see if that would help, but no, just noise and static.

Damn, I apologize for this long post, but I'd love to figure out a way where I'm excited about playing bass and guitar again, but no matter what I do, where I stand or sit, it just sounds dirty and gritty and noisy, I can't take it anymore.

Any suggestions? Thanks a bunch!
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Old 04-04-2003, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: guitar and bass - noise, buzz & hum

Fender makes a line of replacement pickups called "Noiseless" and they truly are. I use them both in my Strat and my P Bass.

These pickups work great and they are virtually noiseless while tracking in front of my CRTs.

The good thing about these pickups is that they preserve the traditional sound of your fender guitars while completely quieting them down so you may sit in front of your monitors and not get that magnetic induced hum. They are similar to "humbuckers" but sound like fender guitars. I love them.

I highly suggest you check them out.
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Old 04-04-2003, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: guitar and bass - noise, buzz & hum

Thanks Mike, I'll look into those.
In the meantime, anyone else have suggestions?
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Old 04-04-2003, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: guitar and bass - noise, buzz & hum

Does it happen in all the positions on the strat? I assume you have 5,most do.If you still have buzz in the 2 and 4 positions,it may be something else.For one,make sure you don't have any light dimmer switchs on in the entire building if possible.Those suckers can be a problem.I had an electrician run a dedicated grounded circut for my entire studio,direct from the main panel,and it got rid of all my problems.I still have some buzz off my strat,1,3,5 positions,but only a problem if I am right in front of the crt's.Never a problem with the P bass.
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Old 04-04-2003, 09:34 AM
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Learn and use the keyboard shortcuts, and when tracking the guitar shot off your video monitor.

check that the guitars grounding is solid.

Hope this is helpful.
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Old 04-04-2003, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: guitar and bass - noise, buzz & hum

Does it happen in all the positions on the strat? I assume you have 5,most do.If you still have buzz in the 2 and 4 positions,it may be something else.For one,make sure you don't have any light dimmer switchs on in the entire building if possible.Those suckers can be a problem.I had an electrician run a dedicated grounded circut for my entire studio,direct from the main panel,and it got rid of all my problems.I still have some buzz off my strat,1,3,5 positions,but only a problem if I am right in front of the crt's.Never a problem with the P bass.
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Old 04-04-2003, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: guitar and bass - noise, buzz & hum

Not the lowest cost suggestion - but, get a flat panel. The CRT buzz will go away and your eyes will thank you. I can't tell you how much easier it is to stare at a nice flat, flicker-free LCD during a long mix session. And my Strat is a whole lot happier and quieter.

Alternatively, I'd agree with where - set your track up, arm it and turn the CRT off.

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Old 04-04-2003, 10:00 AM
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I even have an Apple LCD monitor, thinking that would be a big step forward vs. my old CRT, but no, it's almost worse!?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">thanks for your other suggestions...
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Old 04-04-2003, 10:11 AM
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Sorry, I missed that in your post [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I'd pursue the power issues others have brought up. An LCD for eliminating buzz on a Strat is kind of the default response. It did wonders for my set up.

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Old 04-04-2003, 10:16 AM
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must be a power or grounding issue indeed, I have the 17" Apple Studio Display, everything is just as noisy.... [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
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