Why cant HD9 use HD Hardware with Core Driver??

[peterle]

I Have PT HD9 (and 10) and HD2 Accel Hardware
on an Nehalem 8 Core with OS 10.6.8.
I bought the HD cards just for the purpose
to be able to record with plugins with lowest latency as possible.
A Native System couldnt do this.
In this aspect everything works fine and i can
live with the voice-count limitations.

Since the older architecture of TDM i am
(when using the TDM Hardware as Playback-device)
limited in few aspects , (track count,dsp ressources etc)
compared to , when using a "native" playback engine (in my case MOTU)
with Protools HD.
So , in fact , i could run with my HD Software in native-Mode,
more tracks , use more sends then with the HD Hardware
in "DSP" mode , better for mixing and soundediting (design),
not so good (regarding plugin latency) for recording.

So i would like to toggle between DSP- and Native-Playbackengine,
whenever i need it.

But : Every Software i own , EXCEPT Protools 9/10HD !! ,
(Nuendo , OSX ...) can use my HD Hardware with the core-driver.
Which i would also like to do with Protools!

So , whenever i change my Playback-engine to native
i am forced to use my Motu-ultralite-interface instead
of using simply the core-driver from my Digidesign(Avid)Hardware!!

Aside from double-cabling etc. this is complete nonsense for me.
In fact AVID forces me to buy and use non-AVID Hardware
when i want a native playback engine with my HD Software.

So , please Avid , explain , why is it not possible
to use the HD -core driver with HD Software ?

This SHOULD be possible.

regards



Nehalem 8-core , OSX 10.6.8 (x2) , PT 9.06 HD ,PT 10.1.2 HD ,
HD 2 Accel PCIe ,

[Dism]

Really, you've just proved why TDM systems are so archaic.

Supposedly you bought a TDM system to have the lowest input latency. In 5 years 90% of my work has been on native systems and never has latency been issue.

At any rate...

When you are using your TDM hardware with other software, it's not being used as TDM hardware. You might as well be using the MOTU. Pro Tools sees the TDM hardware as it is, and wants to use it as it should be used. Your problem is that it simply isn't powerful enough to do the job. This is why an HD Native card is a good solution. Low Latency, with all the native power your computer can throw at it, since a modern tower can blow away an HD2 system hands down. There's a reason why TDM systems are going extinct by next year. The idea of using TDM cards with Pro Tools in native mode has been tossed around for a while now, but in the end, it defeats their purpose in the first place, and you could then, in theory use them indefinitely which Avid definitely doesn't want. There has to be incentive to upgrade from hardware that is a decade old.

Buying a TDM system soley for latency control, especially this late in the game, is like buying a computer from 2001 because it has a Zip Drive, and then wonderng why you can't use it with Windows 7.

The use you expect from your old TDM setup is exactly the point of an HD Native system. An HDX card would go even further.

No offense, but being able to use a TDM card with Pro Tools in any native capacity is a fantasy that Avid would never fulfill if only because it means no one would buy an HD Native card.

[peterle]

"Buying a TDM system soley for latency control, especially this late in the game, is like buying a computer from 2001 because it has a Zip Drive, and then wonderng why you can't use it with Windows "

sorry you misunderstood my workflow completely:
when i record with plugins , its often f.e.
the tdm pitch plugin..(foleys for animation )
First, this plugin exists only as tdm , any other
tdm pitch plugin(waves or else) involves a huge
delay , if used as dsp or native version in
an aux input.ONLY digidesign tdm pitch works
that fast . I have also a complex input-setup
with few aux inputs with few plugins...depends what i need.
not possible with a native system!.