Huge adc bug!??

[masterplan]

Please digidesign!
Can you acknowledge that you are aware of this issue?

Since the beginning of time there has been a problem with the instruments and midi track in that they output the midi information with no delay comp when in rec mode.

Scenario: You want to record a beat MPC-style with a sampler, say Structure.
I.e in a 2 bar loop, overdubbing as you play.

On an audio track you have a sampled horn-loop with a latency-heavy plugin.
For instance Maxim.

You hit rec on your Structure track to record your beat,playing along with the horn-loop.

First time around, fine.
Second time around when you loop back to the beginning, the Structure track is outputting it´s recorded notes without dly-comp.
So the groove is completely f up!

Of course this is how it should work:
What you play in real time should be output without ADC.
What´s being played by the sequenser HAVE TO BE DELAY COMPENSATED.

So that´s that.

BUT on top of that is this new frkn bug that Muhis1 mentioned.
That wasn´t there in 7.4.
And now makes it IMPOSSIBLE to record any soft synths, unless you are the kind of guy that quantizes
everything 100% all the time.

PLEASE DIGI!
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE MUSIC!
NOT PLAYING THE GUESSING GAME: "Where are my midi notes gonna end up?"

Peer

[tonwurm]

tried that exactly as you described with boom, superior drummer and with battery

no problems

[masterplan]

The problem described above or Muhis1?

[tonwurm]

Originally Posted by masterplan

The problem described above or Muhis1?

muhis

sorry, I didn´t see your post

[woodsdenis]

Originally Posted by tonwurm

tried that exactly as you described with boom, superior drummer and with battery

no problems

thanks tonworm. Anybody have any ideas on this one

[masterplan]

No worries Tonwurm.

Don´t wanna be a bitch but...
Are you sure you got everything 100% right?
I know Muhis tried this on more than one setup...

Peer

[woodsdenis]

Originally Posted by masterplan

No worries Tonwurm.

Don´t wanna be a bitch but...
Are you sure you got everything 100% right?
I know Muhis tried this on more than one setup...

Peer

To try and regress this bug a little. I tried this on 7.4/Tiger just now and had no issues.So its not a legacy bug AFAIK. Did this just start happening in 8.0.1?

[masterplan]

Yup.
The thing Muhis describes showed up in PT 8.

The one i´m describing though is there in 7.4 and before that too.

[muhis1]

Hi Peer!

I've seen that 7.4 error as well!!

Even that is totally beyond acceptable!....how do you overdub something (midi data) when what you've just recorded sounds wrong!! (and for all of you that don't understand!! : I mean overdub on the same channel)

Maybe it's a gift from Digi. to make it groove!! HIHI!!

Helloooo....Digidesign!!....Please show us that you're a PRO company!!

/J

Originally Posted by masterplan

Please digidesign!
Can you acknowledge that you are aware of this issue?

Since the beginning of time there has been a problem with the instruments and midi track in that they output the midi information with no delay comp when in rec mode.

Scenario: You want to record a beat MPC-style with a sampler, say Structure.
I.e in a 2 bar loop, overdubbing as you play.

On an audio track you have a sampled horn-loop with a latency-heavy plugin.
For instance Maxim.

You hit rec on your Structure track to record your beat,playing along with the horn-loop.

First time around, fine.
Second time around when you loop back to the beginning, the Structure track is outputting it´s recorded notes without dly-comp.
So the groove is completely f up!

Of course this is how it should work:
What you play in real time should be output without ADC.
What´s being played by the sequenser HAVE TO BE DELAY COMPENSATED.

So that´s that.

BUT on top of that is this new frkn bug that Muhis1 mentioned.
That wasn´t there in 7.4.
And now makes it IMPOSSIBLE to record any soft synths, unless you are the kind of guy that quantizes
everything 100% all the time.

PLEASE DIGI!
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE MUSIC!
NOT PLAYING THE GUESSING GAME: "Where are my midi notes gonna end up?"

Peer

[woodsdenis]

Originally Posted by masterplan

Yup.
The thing Muhis describes showed up in PT 8.

The one i´m describing though is there in 7.4 and before that too.

Muhis


Did it just show up in PT8.0.1 or in all versions of PT8 and subsequent cs updates