Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Legacy Products > 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Win)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-11-2002, 12:15 AM
pk_hat pk_hat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: grimy Brooklyn
Posts: 4,680
Default pc monitor issues

s'weird, I just did a little re-arranging in the studio which involved tideous plugging and unplugging cables.

As I boot up my pc, everything seems fine at first glance. Then, as my eyes start to zoom out of the screen, I'm noticing that the actual desktop viewing area appears to be 'floating' (closest term I could think of to describe this anomaly).
There's a constant ondulation around the borders, similar to someone jumping on a waterbed to create ripples, that's what my screen now looks like! It's almost as if it has a pulse, shifting forward and back, kinda creepy... [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

I've looked into many possibilities but nothing's working. Refresh rate is a 60hz which seems optimal, 1280X1024 is the resolution I've used for a long time, and the card is the Radeon VE.
The monitor is a flat-screen Sony Multiscan G400 (2-3 years old).

Any of you experienced this floating window before?

pk
__________________
www.myspace.com/krou
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-11-2002, 12:51 AM
QuikDraw QuikDraw is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Yucaipa, California, USA
Posts: 2,102
Default Re: pc monitor issues

Quote:
Originally posted by pk_hat:

Any of you experienced this floating window before?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Not when I was sober!

[img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
[img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
[img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
__________________
-- Mike
- MacBook Pro 15.4" (9,1) - 2.3 GHz i7 16GB RAM
- OS X 10.14.1 Mojave / Windows 10 (Bootcamp) - PT running on Windows partition
- PreSonus Quantum 2
- PreSonus Studio 24c
- MBox 3 Mini
- Mackie Onyx 1640i
- Behringer X32 Producer
- PT 2018.12 (vanilla)
- Various USB2/3 and Firewire hard drives
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-11-2002, 04:40 AM
SKI SKI is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,153
Default Re: pc monitor issues

PK,
I've seen this on two occassion:
1)one had to do with the refresh rates on my Monitors on my Dualhead G450 card.
2)two let me know that the refresh rate was not the culprit the first time.
When I moved my (video) monitors one was picking up intermittent elctrical noise from a powerline.
Mine were more open to this since I had to put the on extenders to get the necessary distance from computer to monitor.
Pop your case make sure your video card is seated snuggly and try rerouting your video cable to see if that stops the shimmering.
I haven't seen the problem since I did the rerouting.
Hope this helps
__________________
URBAN MUSIC-
(Hip Hop and R&B)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-11-2002, 05:42 AM
Swaphappy Swaphappy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,713
Default Re: pc monitor issues

I've seen this too, several times.
It can be caused by placing the monitor too
close to the magnetic flux from another device.
Most commonly the interference occurs from
the transformer in a florescent lamp,
or another monitor (fly back transformer),
or a desk fan (the rotating armature field),
or an external drive enclosure (anything with a transformer or electric motor).
Just move the monitor a few feet away and see
what happens.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-11-2002, 08:55 AM
JMS40 JMS40 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Gnashville
Posts: 6,347
Default Re: pc monitor issues

Saw the same thing with a small clamp-on fan running next to the monitor.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-11-2002, 09:03 AM
elijahsongs elijahsongs is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 225
Default Re: pc monitor issues

pk,

Sometimes I get some crazy monitor behavior when my speakers are right next to them. Don't know if this applies to you...

Also, I had some weird wavy lines after moving some things around... my Sony monitor had a "reset" option on the On Screen Display and hitting that fixed it... also try "degauss" if you have that option... and "cancel moire"...

That 60hz refresh rate seems a bit low, (was that vertical or horizontal?), see if you can bump it up a bit, I've heard minimum recommendations of no less than 75hz (monitor and vid card permitting of course) for minimum eye strain...

Just a thought...
__________________
elijah
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-11-2002, 10:22 AM
pk_hat pk_hat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: grimy Brooklyn
Posts: 4,680
Default Re: pc monitor issues

thanks for all your suggestions.

My monitor does also have a reset and degauss options which didn't help the cause. When I click to see the menu, it shows the refresh rate at 60hz, although it does recommend 85hz. If I bump it up to 85, it flickers way too much, same with 75, so I feel I'm stuck on 60!

A little detail I left out, I actually did extend the distance from CPU to monitor with a VGA cable extension. Could that be the cause?

pk
__________________
www.myspace.com/krou
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-11-2002, 10:25 AM
elijahsongs elijahsongs is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 225
Default Re: pc monitor issues

Yes, that's probably the cause...

I think you have to have a heavily shielded extension cable to get the same quality, and even then I don't think it will be the same as without the extension. About nine months ago there were some posts about this with some links to websites that sold these sheilded VGA cables...
__________________
elijah
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-11-2002, 10:38 AM
Swaphappy Swaphappy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,713
Default Re: pc monitor issues

Quote:
Originally posted by elijahsongs:
Yes, that's probably the cause...

I think you have to have a heavily shielded extension cable to get the same quality, and even then I don't think it will be the same as without the extension. About nine months ago there were some posts about this with some links to websites that sold these sheilded VGA cables...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Your right that could be it.
A good extension cable with a shield could do the
do the trick.
I have one from CompuKit (got it at a local store)
it's 15' SVGA Coaxial Shielded Cable, HD15 M/F.
Sometimes it's just signal loss, so an extension cable can't be used with some video cards.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-11-2002, 10:43 AM
SKI SKI is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,153
Default Re: pc monitor issues

PK
extending my distance was difinitely when mine did it.
I was fortunate enough that one of my tables had the routing tracks for cables so I routed them away from everything else.
Also are the extender cables you are using the ones that actually thumb screw to each other or just connect?
If they don't actually screw together that's also a point of entry for the problem.
I would try rerouting your cables if that doesn't help you may have to opt for heavier cables with better shielding.
__________________
URBAN MUSIC-
(Hip Hop and R&B)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MBox 3 Pro/Lion Monitor Issues Garry R 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 4 06-30-2012 03:07 PM
Mac monitor issues viaspiaggia Post - Surround - Video 6 11-14-2011 07:44 AM
Monitor issues. stelladat macOS 1 06-02-2011 09:52 AM
Monitor issues ShayShay Pro Tools TDM Systems (Win) 1 01-06-2011 12:29 PM
Record/audition/monitor issues. PookaStew MIDI 1 07-09-2007 11:47 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:56 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com