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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
i'd recommend that as well. if your interested in a good read:
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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
Maybe it's just me, but I hate voc.booths and only ever use them when the whole band needs to be tracked together. Kind of a "studio live" thing.
I love hard surfaces as they tend to accentuate the very beginning of a phrase. I'd rather record vocs that sound alive before you even consider which mic you are going to use. Maybe that's just me I use voc.booths as guitar amp booths mostly...
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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
understandable. this superdry sound may need some altiverb after recording...
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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
Hi,
Most home setups that I go troubleshoot have some sort of booth set up. I have only seen one done well in 20 years. The first thing we usually do is get the customer to rip out the vocal booth. It's like an above poster said: If you didn't put a lot of design and money into a booth, it's just going to mess you up and needlessly make your room smaller. We always have better results in an untreated basement with a mic screen than in a little booth. (Obviously, you're better off treating the basement...just saying...)
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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
i dont have a basement and i already built the booth so im trying to find a solution that would help me fix the problem, not start over the process. all i asked was it a way to deaden the booth more then it is because im still getting a low mud frequency. just by reading a few comments im told to try 4 inch foam, and im gonna take that in consideration. thanks for all the suggestions though, yall really helped me out allot and now im starting to understand more then what i thought i knew.
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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
Understood.
You may be better off getting a 4" rock wool or fiberglass product though. Pre-made panels? The foam is a tricky beast. Always the first thing we tear out.
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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
It's true that fixing your recording environment should be your number one priority. There are tools to help you correct bad recordings to a certain extent if it can't be avoided, or re-recorded under better conditions.
Zynaptic do a great tool that helps in these situations, Unfilter. The trouble is, like iZotope, their tech is so damn expensive. Probably because they know they have us by the metaphorical "balls"!! Otherwise I'd suggest a combination of subtractive eq, then dynamic eq and finally multiband compression if needed. A little bit of each. Set the subtractive eq up to take out as much as you can without making things sound thin. It might be also wise to consider a Linear Phase eq in this context. You may also be looking for harmonic series of frequencies to notch out, as often is the nature of many resonances. So find your main problematic frequency, take a little out there, then try again an octave up, and an octave above that. Only remove frequencies if you think it will help, don't do it unnecessarily. Dehum filters such as the one here, or the one from iZotope can actually be exploited to serve this purpose as they allow you to more easily to notch out harmonic frequency series. Works great at deringing snares too by the way. If this isn't enough then consider a dynamic eq, like the one from Brainworks, or the one's found in C6 by Waves. Again find the key frequencies that are giving you the most grief and have it dynamically remove more frequencies at the most loudest, or most annoying parts. So the subtractive eq should be enough to tame the frequencies during more softer to average passages and the dynamic eq should help to tame them during more louder parts. And if that is not enough still, then you can use a multiband compressor to crush down on the most loudest parts. This is why I like the C6 because I can use it for both dynamic eq and as a multiband compressor. It's only downside is it only have two bands of dynamic eq. Between all of this you should be ablate beat your sound into submission, but its a lot of work. However, you can save some of that work by saving custom presets. Be aware though, these tools make it so easy to really screw up a sound even further too. ALWAYS check against the original so you don't take things too far. It takes time to develop an ear for this kind of surgery, so be patient with yourself. At the end of they, to save you the extra agony and prevent countless hours wasting time trying to right some wrongs, it will be definitely worth investigating ways to improve your recording environment. That really should come first. |
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I would recommend contacting a friend of mine who actually might be able to help you. He is a legendary engineer and also has designed a ton of studios. He is quite a helpful guy and you could reach out to him if you like via email and tell him what happened. Also I would have used a layer of sound board and then Sheet Rock and then finish with Owen Corning 704 or 703 I think that is the name. The frequencies of this item is much better than silly foam. Plus it's not that expensive. You might try just using a SE electronics Reflection filter and test and see if that fixes your problems. https://www.seelectronics.com/rf-space/ try reaching out to Chris Huston http://www.chrishuston.com He has done several rooms for me and is amazing. Greg
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Re: vocal booth causing vocals to sound very boxy
There are a lot of things I could think of to help. Unfortunately, the most significant one I can suggest would involve more cost and construction and that's to build a similar design but with two significant changes:
If you're OK with recording totally "dead" vocals (i.e. with no natural room reverb at all), you could try some cheaper options first:
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