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Old 02-04-2020, 07:08 AM
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Default Interleaved audio 7.1.2 ch order messed up on import

I'm trying to import some interleaved files mixed in 7.1.2 configuration into my session, and no matter what I do, the channel order is always wrong.
In 7.1.2, the channel order should be L,R,C,Lss,Rss,Lrs,Rrs,LFE,Lts,Rts. When I check the interleaved file using Wave Agent, it shows that the LFE is really on ch8, but it gets imported to ch5 instead.
Has anyone experienced anything similar?
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Old 02-04-2020, 11:33 AM
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I think this will help explain the default layout when importing into Pro Tools, regardless of the layout outside of Pro Tools.
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Thanks, Ryan Young for your answer. There's no mention of Atmos (7.1.2) configuration in that document. Also, all 7.1 and 5.1 files import correctly.
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I'm trying to import some interleaved files mixed in 7.1.2 configuration into my session, and no matter what I do, the channel order is always wrong.
In 7.1.2, the channel order should be L,R,C,Lss,Rss,Lrs,Rrs,LFE,Lts,Rts. When I check the interleaved file using Wave Agent, it shows that the LFE is really on ch8, but it gets imported to ch5 instead.
Has anyone experienced anything similar?
Hi Branko, never seen that. In a 7.1.2 SMPTE channel order, the Lfe is on the forth position and on Film mode in the 8th position. The height channels are always after that. The channel order you describe is not right, assuming is Film mode, it should be L,C,R,Lss,Rss,Lrs,Rrs,LFE,Lts,Rts. Anyway, where was the file exported from? I think is just a metadata/file extension issue and Protools is not interpreting it well on import, despite Wave Agent showing the Lfe in the right place.
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These are the layouts I've seen, where LFE is in 6th position.
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These are the layouts I've seen, where LFE is in 6th position.
Well, ya, in a 5.1 Film order, but were talking about 7.1.2 as Branko mentioned. In a 5.1.2 setup would be in 6th as well.
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Well, ya, in a 5.1 Film order, but were talking about 7.1.2 as Branko mentioned. In a 5.1.2 setup would be in 6th as well.
It’s a screenshot of 7.1.2 layout
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Lol gah. I’m confusing myself now. Sorry.
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