Alternate techniques for De-Essing

[chrisdee]

Another nice De-Essing alternative is to use a multiband compressor. Fabfilter MB sounds best to my ears. Alternatively McDsp A400 can also work ok.

[AlexLakis]

Fabfilter was great when I was demoing it. Since then, I've moved back to Massey's De-Esser, and found the key to using it: The mix knob. I get just-as-good results now as with the Fabfilter.

Of course, manually picking out the esses in the edit window and applying your own trim gain reduction has its place too.

[chrisoz1435]

I've never been completely happy with any de-Esser. Like a few here, I manually adjust the clip gain and find it works well for me.

[Captain Al]

Automating the trim is one way, how about this variation
Duplicate the track, cut & drag every s to the duplicated track, dip the volume or roll off a freq to suit..
Easy to adjust any s then :)

It's an odd trick I hardly ever do but sometimes when the de-essor just won't cut it, it can help take a different approach, especially if the sibilance varies a lot.

[EKmixmaster]

Untill recently I've been using Waves RDeesser which is great and I can't see much reasons why to have that much headache drawing manually automation for every esss.
Anyway I must admit that there cases when de-esser isn't best solution cz it ruins vocal's top end frequencies - like for extremely compressed vocals or some vocalists whith too expresive sibilants (well THIS is the case when esses volume automation needed first!!!)
So in 99 of 100 I grab de-esser to fight with esss noise.

P.S.: lots of pro vocalists have amazing technique and control esses very good either so no de-essing needed.

[larsongs]

What do you all recommend for 'K' sound?

[amagras]

Originally Posted by larsongs

What do you all recommend for 'K' sound?

I use fade-ins if they are at the beginning of the word

[Ansleyarch]

When we conversation about sibilance in relative to a vocal footage, we're mentioning chiefly to the 's' sounds; loud high incidence consonants shaped by the commotion as air whistles finished a singer's teeth.

[Muddy-T]

Originally Posted by Ansleyarch

When we conversation about sibilance in relative to a vocal footage, we're mentioning chiefly to the 's' sounds; loud high incidence consonants shaped by the commotion as air whistles finished a singer's teeth.

Well put! That is so true..! Not too shabby as first posts go.

And, may I add, what a great way to bump a year old thread..!

[critictalk]

Nova from Tokyo Dawn is also good at de esse, and it is free!

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