How do I create a drum sub mix?

[jpoprock]

I have four tracks of drums that I want to group together (which figured out). But I want to send those four tracks to ONE stereo "sub mix" so that I can compress all my drums overall. I figured out how to create a sub group, but I can only assign 1/2 or 3/4 to this one sub group. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. But the bottom line is, i need to get all four of my drum tracks fed to a two track stereo sub mix. I looked in the manual, and I just can't seem to figure it out.

Thanks for the help!

Jason

[Bastiaan]

there are 2 ways. One if you want to use an outboard-effect and one if you want to use plugins.

For the outboard:
I assume you have connected your effect to output 7/8 and input 7/8.
Route the signal to bus 1-2 stereo. Use the stereo-bus to be able to pan each individual track.
Then create an aux-track and set the input to bus 1-2 stereo.
Then apply a hardware insert (same place as you would insert a software-plugin, just choose i/o instead) with channels 7-8 analog stereo.

For the software-plugin you do the same (send channels to a bus and create an aux-fader to get them back in) and apply the plugin on the aux-track.

Be aware of the fact that using the outboard-effect will create latency (delay), so you have to move the tracks of the subgroup to the left to compensate

[jpoprock]

Bastiaan,

Let's just for kicks leave FX out of it. Maybe I didn't word the question correctly either.

Basically, I have my drum machine split off into four tracks going into the back of the Digi (3,4,5,& 6). And I have four tracks in PTLE assigned as snare, kick, overheadL, and overheadR. Rather than have four seperate tracks w/ compression on them, I want to just combine all four of those tracks down to a stereo mix, then put compression (plug-in) over that.

Then if my snare is too hot, I can just pull the snare fader down... hoping it will apply to the output I'm hearing from the stereo mix.

I guess it's no different than a real mixer when I send those four inputs to sub 1/2 and insert compression via the sub input. I just can't seem to figure how to do that w/ software!

I saw on the "Be There" demo session that their drums were set up EXACTLY how I want mine, only the use like loops for cymbals and stuff. I have four tracks that I need to be combined into two. I can assign my sub to receive 1 and 2, but I only get ONE choice it seems. I can't tell my sub to recieve 1/2/3/4.

Sorry for the confusion. And sorry if I'm too stupid to figure out your reponse, if the answer is there.

Thanks!
Jason

[Robert U]

1) Create a stereo Aux.

2) Make it recieve on any free pair of bus i.e bus 1-2.

3) Change the output to bus 1-2 of those 4 tracks that you want to send.

Now all 4 channels are going to that aux and you can insert your comp.


-Robert

[Bastiaan]

and that's exactly what i was telling too...

[jpoprock]

Sorry guys. I guess I was just doing it wrong. I think I understand totally. I'll try it. Thanks again, and sorry I'm a little slow at this..

Jason

[Robert U]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bastiaan:
and that's exactly what i was telling too...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know.... Just wanted to make it SUPER clear [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

-Robert

[Bastiaan]

[img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] ok

[jpoprock]

Robert... that seems to be the thing w/ me. I need things explained like you would a 12yr old. I guess it's whole, "was never good at math thing". HA! I got it working just fine though. Thanks again!

Jason

[mixin'chick]

Jpop,
There will be latency. If you are only going to hear the compressed track you may be ok. If you want to blend the original and the compressed buss. I suggest you record the combined track as another audio track then shift it earlier until it lines up with the originals. You will see what I am talking about if you listen to both. The busses track will suck the life out of the original tracks cause it will be late.

The only reason I mention this is because I love to work with a real compressed drum submix AND the original tracks. I think it opens up the sound but, still provides the super punch everyone is into now.

MC