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Re: Can we please have a complete rollout of the PT12 (vanilla and HD) licensing
I love protools, but Avid has this all wrong. You have to give customers a strong incentive to want to upgrade and stay loyal. Instead they are giving customers a punishment for not upgrading. That's no way to treat your customers, and it erodes trust in their brand. Marketing 101.
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Marketing 101 would also involve "bad news Friday"... So keep your ears open in a couple days!
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Would someone let me know. Thanks Carl
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What they are doing is insuring that everyone who lapses NEVER comes back.
Brilliant.
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Re: Can we please have a complete rollout of the PT12 (vanilla and HD) licensing
Both; support plan provides both support and access to major updates. Bug fix updates remain free even without a plan.
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$599 annualized pro-rated penalty x 1000 years + ($599 x .25 Re-Establishment Fee Rate) + $599 new Support Plan subscription fee = $599,748.75? Am I missing a key detail somewhere? Is there really no pre-established cap to the prorated penalty? This past winter an Avid official made the argument here that people got value for PT11 because they had access to it for this entire time. However, going on that premise now means that the punishment of a 1:1 prorated fine doesn't fit the crime either because we would be retroactively paying for 100% of the prior cost of Pro Tools while it was not in our possession. In other words, we can't go back in time and get value for the money Avid thinks we owe them. The 1:1 prorated fine is essentially paying for the latest versions of Pro Tools while only having access to the obsolete ones. Also, the prorated penalty will likely be based on whatever cost increases happen to the Support Plan. So if one were to lapse for several years, I'm sure Avid won't be using the then-current Support Plan rates that were applicable for those years in their penalty calculations. How's anyone not wearing one of Avid's blinders supposed to see any of this as tolerable? I understand that this is the point Avid is trying to drive home about staying current, but it's also rather harsh to have to pay them back 100% for all the time we didn't have access to the "latest and greatest" features of Pro Tools. I may show up for the Support Plan later this year, but there's no way in Hell I'll be coming back for a second helping of it based on what we know today. Avid sure has a lot of chutzpah if they think this plan is a winner. |
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It sucks that one would spend $20k on an HDX2 rig and still have to pay $50/mnth ($599/yr) to run it.
I can't see a myself, or any professional colleague on HD, having more than 30 days downtime in a year. So lapsing should not be an issue. Fair or not, the price of admission for using HD/HDX is now a tax deductible $50/mnth ($599/yr). Is that $50/mnth freight charge enough of a weight to break down your entire HDX rig, learn a new DAW, maybe lose session compatibility, and possibly lose a few clients. Some will say hell yes! Avid needs to make an HD software purchase option. $1500-$2000. Include all Avid branded plugins and maybe still charge $20/mnth (same as vanilla sub) for support. Throw us a bone for years of loyalty. |
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But it speaks volumes that you believe in PT so much that you would use version 12 in the year 3015. They probably won't support it, though.
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+1
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