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Re: UAD Luna
You do have to be invested in the UAD ecosystem..
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Re: UAD Luna
Thanks. I was almost thinking I am missing something obvious here
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Re: UAD LUNA is a daw
It's not zero latency,
The record armed tracks for apollo inputs are subject to the exact same latency as console. that means 80% of effects will add 1.5ms latency EACH at 44K. Vi's are at 128 buffer, but no word yet if that is just for Luna VI's. This is not "zero latency". That means RTL through Luna will still be higher than HDX at all sample rates, without any plugins present at all.
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Re: UAD Luna
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Any thunderbolt apollo will do, even the firewire one with thunderbolt add in card is 100% compatible. All Apollos ever released as long as there is a way to connect to them via thunderbolt.
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Re: UAD LUNA is a daw
Of course it isn't. No digital system is ever zero latency. Comes by definition that you need at least one sample latency going in, one sample latency for processing, and one sample latency going out. No digital system can guess what comes next, and no digital system can pass data between samples.
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Re: UAD LUNA is a daw
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This is what fooled me into thinking I could add ANY uad plugin to monitor chain in Apollo and not incur additional latency (i of course knew the figure for the base RTL without plugins). This couldn't be further from the truth, and applies equally to Luna as well. I have been asking UA to amend the info on that for years. I was in for a rude surprise believe me when I started stacking the newer plugins! A unison pre, plus EQ and twin comp will get you close to 10MS. much higher/slower than a fast native system using stuff like slate VMR. The only way to avoid this is to use the 15 year old MK1 plugins, or thrid party ones like brainworx who tend to have zero additional delay DSP plugins. The only real benefit is lack of cpu use which is why I stick to it. I have plenty of native plugins now I like as much or even prefer to UA versions..Slate Distressor being an example, IK Dyna Mu another (it's just insanely good). After realising just how weak my imac pro is to try and do a total ITB recording, I use UAD fx for the mixing process but I can't use the ones I love to put on my monitor chain as the latency is just too high.
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Re: UAD LUNA is a daw
Well, I for one am excited about it for tracking projects at least. Can't see myself leaving PT for mixing, but I like console, and the low latency, so let's see how it is. Oh, plus...you can't argue with FREE!
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Re: UAD LUNA is a daw
Nothing wrong with looking forward to it. I myself will check it out in around 3 years is my guess, when the features catch up.
Right now it doesn't even have freeze/bounce in place, only the old school way of opening up an export window. There's no audio quantise. NO sidechaining of any kind, not with UA, not with native plugins, and so on. But the very basics of it look good and easy to use.. so with time, who knows :)
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Re: UAD LUNA is a daw
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Nevertheless I won't have an opinion about it before I record and mix with it - hands on - Regarding your other concern, I don't know which version of Console you use but I track through console with plugins loaded all over for years without any noticeable latency. I don't care what the actual latency number is because I'm not a scientist but a musician.
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