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Old 01-26-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Advice pls: which DV rec to buy? Small or large DV


I know its not directly ProTools related but I thought I'd give it a go ;-)

We are a voice agency in Amsterdam. Since 1,5 years we now have our own ProTools HD studio to also produce our clients projects if desired. Lately we are getting a lot of post work which is actually a new field for us. Of course we are happily accepting these jobs and doing them well. However the last few weeks we have had several clients ask if we would be able to accept DV tapes... so we'd like to purchase a DV recorder.

As we will not be using it daily I have actually been looking at a verry attractive priced JVC BR-DV600EA (Eur. 960,-)

(link: https://www.globalmediapro.com/av/in...more&item=878)

Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with this deck?
There is a newer version available which is less funerable for drop-outs, is this necessary?

The more expensive decks include the ability to accept DVCPro and DV's SP. Is this advisable keeping in mind that the deck costs are then 3 times as much. Is DV SP used a lot?

Thanks a lot for your valuable feedback!

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Old 01-26-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Advice pls: which DV rec to buy? Small or larg

I have a very similar deck at our facility (several years old too, at least 4). The problem with the similar deck I have is that you cannot do an insert edit, which means you will not be able to layback audio to the tape. I haven't had to think about this in months, but I am not certain that any deck that can play miniDV tapes can do an insert edit to them. I believe the only way to get audio back onto a miniDV tape is to do an assemble edit (which you don't want to do unless you can load the video via firewire into something such as Final Cut Pro and then relay everything from there). If your clients expect you to layback audio to a miniDV tape, they may be disappointed (and not with you, but with anyone).

Last year we had a client who wanted to bring us DVcam tapes for locked picture. We acquired a Sony DSR-2000. It is one impressive deck. I would say its on par with the DVW-A500 (I know that is a different format, but it gives you an idea of what the deck is capable of). The DSR-2000 will playback miniDV, DVCPRO, and DVcam. You can layback audio to a DVcam tape, generate timecode from the deck, control via RS-422A, and make digital clones using the SDI interface.

I'd get the DSR-2000 or something close to it. The money spent on it now will be money saved compared to later when you have the JVC and then need to playback DVcam tapes.
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:58 PM
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you might want to ask the folks at KAOS about that. they are over in the VEEMARKT. kaos website they do a lot of TV and Film and do both the picture editing and audio side to things. nice knowledgeable people. and if i am not mistaken, they have that deck over there. and if they don't there video people, i am sure, know about it.

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Old 01-27-2005, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: Advice pls: which DV rec to buy? Small or large DV

The JVC is not a bad deck for the money but i suggest you invest a little more and get the sony DSR series. They are MUCH more reliable and the overall built quality and reliability is far superior to the JVC.
One of the facility i freelance at has the Sony DSR-2000, DSR-1500 and the JVC BR-DV600. I use these machines regularly and the JVC is definitely not in the same league as the Sony ( drop frame problems, sync issue....).
I would check out the DSR-1500 since it's much cheaper than the DSR-2000. Quality wise it's exactly the same, both will read/record most format ( read Mini DV, DVcam, DVC Pro /Write MiniDV, DVCam ). It has an SDI option. You can do assamble/insert edit, no problem. There's also the DSR-45, wich is basically an DSR-1500 without the SDI option for $ 2000 less.
Anyways, you can't go wrong with either the DSR2000/1500/45....just check out the features on each and choose the appropriate deck for your needs. If you need more info regarding these decks, feel free to email me privately. Good luck.
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