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Re: Is there any sound degradation when turning down a master fader?
There was a problem with this that got fixed something like twenty years ago. I remember automating the faders on waves ren Eqs because it was by far the best sounding fader on any DAW.
Those were the daze...
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Re: Is there any sound degradation when turning down a master fader?
Coming at it from the Post perspective riding the Master usually messes up your room calibrations & hardware meters
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So, I'm revisiting this post this evening and I have a question for the OP; What are you doing to get
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Unfortunately not - the only chance you would have of recovering an over-modulated analogue recording / severely clipped fixed point digital recording, would be to either redraw the waveform by hand (after using the Audio Suite gain plug-in to reduce it's overall level), or to get the best result you could with something like Cedar / RX. The only reason it is possible to recover the clipped digital audio I mentioned in my previous post, is because I was specifically referring to a floating point system. I suppose it could theoretically be possible to record to a 48bit fixed point file, whilst clipping a 32bit floating point mixer, and still recover the audio, provided you didn't exceed the dynamic range of the 48bit fixed point scale. |
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And fwiw PT has had a 64-bit float mixer since v9.
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I agree, logically, you'd expect that if the floating point mixer is clipped, then a fixed point audio file would just be a document of that clipping - but I'm pondering theoretically - if it were possible within an enclosed environment like Pro Tools, to clip a 32bit floating point mixer by 12dB, whilst generating a 48bit fixed point audio file (which is well within the dynamic range of a 48bit fixed point scale), it might seem reasonable to be able to attenuate that file by 12dB, and be back within the "clean" zone of the 32bit float mixer upon playback. I don't think that would actually be the case, for the obvious reasons - but as it's something I can't actually test in the real world, it's just a thought experiment. |
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