Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Pro Tools Software > Tips & Tricks

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-04-2008, 06:07 PM
M8kinMoves M8kinMoves is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4
Default Quantizing Metal Drums

Is there anyone out there who has any tips for quantizing fast metal drums with lots of double kick. I have been using beat detective, but it has not come out sounding that great. I have also tried some other manual methods with mixed results as well. Any tips would be appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-04-2008, 07:21 PM
your one guy your one guy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 73
Default Re: Quantizing Metal Drums

get a better drummer???
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-04-2008, 07:57 PM
French links French links is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: France
Posts: 153
Default Re: Quantizing Metal Drums

If you have 7.4 use Elastic Audio (there is a video about drums on the website).
If not...Redo the performance....

Protools is very powerful okay but it won't make all the work for you changing a frog into princess.It just helps tightening a bit so it means the performance must be as perfect as possible...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-06-2008, 11:37 AM
TheBaron TheBaron is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 189
Default Re: Quantizing Metal Drums

You guys are harsh!
I'm pretty clueless in protools and I wish I could help. I've got to say, I've had some weird things happen with groove quantize myself. Even when I experimented with a simple, slow beat and a few quicker notes layered in. Can't explain it but I've heard some wacky things happen to beats that were absolutely on time...so I'll be eagerly awaiting some constructive comments on this post.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-07-2008, 12:51 AM
your one guy your one guy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 73
Default Re: Quantizing Metal Drums

constructive? good luck!...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-07-2008, 10:10 AM
ondruspat ondruspat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Lansing, Michigan USA
Posts: 1,142
Default Re: Quantizing Metal Drums

A friend of mine who specializes in metal uses beat detective all the time. He told me to take the song in small sections (one or two bars at a time) and process them. Even then he said he always manually checked the edits. To him it was time comsuming but the results were worth it.

But after he flew up to my place last week and checked out 7.4 he's updating ASAP. Elastic audio seems the way to go now. EA process your tracks, switch their timebase to ticks instead of samples, and quantize away (assuming that you used a click or have made a tempo map). I Youtubed a whole bunch of EA videos, there is plenty of instruction out there for you.

Btw: he also swears by Sound Replacer for modern metal drums...
__________________
"Sometimes having limits keeps you sane"- Albee1952
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-07-2008, 10:30 AM
audiogeekzine audiogeekzine is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,524
Default Re: Quantizing Metal Drums

work on small sections, 8 bars max.
Do you have the resolution set to 32nd notes? Analyze with sub-beats?

Use collection mode if you've got it for the best results.
Analyze the kick track, add to collection, analyze the snare track, add unique to collection, select all your drum tracks, separate regions, region conform.
Do the whole song, then apply region smoothing and crossfades.
__________________
@theaudiogeek
| www.EPICSounds.ca | www.AudioGeekZine.com | www.HomeRecordingShow.com |
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Metal Foundry or Evil Drums NuBus Virtual Instruments 11 04-06-2010 03:46 PM
Quantizing Metal Drums M8kinMoves Tips & Tricks 6 04-25-2009 11:55 PM
Quantizing Drums with 7.4? steveooo 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 5 04-01-2008 02:44 PM
Quantizing Drums Angus202 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Win) 0 01-10-2005 07:08 AM
OT- DFH or BDF drums for pop/rock (not metal) keithl 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Win) 28 06-17-2004 01:20 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:04 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com