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mastering, what to do and what not to do
I have a general question. My band and I are about to begin recording a full length album. Are there any specific things we should avoid or keep in mind as far as maintaining the best mixes we can before bringing to a mastering house? I heard things about normalization and how it can harm your recordings before mastering. I tend to use normalization often to bring up levels of volume-lacking tracks. Anyone have anything on the subject of mastering?
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Re: mastering, what to do and what not to do
Here's the link to one of the best mastering threads on this board in a while:
How Does My Mastering Compare to Yours
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Re: mastering, what to do and what not to do
Well, that thread's been good, but I don't know that it's addressing his specific questions.
AFAIK, Normalizing doesn't do anything to the sound but bring it's highest peak to threshold. I don't think this can have adverse effects on your mix unless you put effects on it before sending it out to mix/master, then it can clip. I think you want to concentrate on getting a good sound that doesn't clip, doesn't even come close to clipping really. If you want to be able to hear a track during recording, slap an RTAS limiter on there and you'll be able ot hear the instrument. Then you can just strip out all effects before mixing. -Olaf |
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This website should be a good read for anyone interested in mastering, whether at home or by a professional. The book you see promoted on the site should be on everyone's bookshelf, as it's not just for mastering.
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Re: mastering, what to do and what not to do
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Turn up your monitors and get your mix sounding the way you want it. It'll be the mastering house's job to bring up the level and do the mastering. -or-... if you really have a problem with that. Save up yer pennies and buy waves' L2 plugin. =) |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFAIK, Normalizing doesn't do anything to the sound but bring it's highest peak to threshold. I don't think this can have adverse effects on your mix unless you put effects on it before sending it out to mix/master, then it can clip. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not sure which method PT uses but it depends on -how- you normalize it. For example, the last time I used it in SoundForge (v4.0...been awhile) there were two normalization methods: Peak to Threshold and RMS. Peak To Threshold would behave as you describe, but the RMS method would just bring up the level of wav w/o much regard to whether your peaks would clip or not. Actually, I think SF did try to do some compression on your peaks...but it usually ended up sounding horrible >> exactly...professional mastering places ideally would have better algorithm/DSP solutions for managing levels, thus outcome of final master will ( possibly ) be superior. cheers,
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Re: mastering, what to do and what not to do
Bermaster, , There are a lot of things you can do to make your final master better and make the mastering engineer's job easier. Here are some hints, I usually give to my clients : -find out beforehand what media/fileformats they can work with -use the highest possible bit resoluton & sample rate you can work with...and stay w/it till the end. Do not convert/dither -use compression/limiting on individual tracks only (for impact,tone,sustain)., leave the master fader's inserts alone -leave some ( -2 dBFS ) headroom open -give the mastering house a few alternate mixes ( more/less >>bass;lead vox;stereo spread ) -leave top and tail "handles" ( silence/room tone before-after the take ) -do not "normalize" I'm sure someone else will jump in... hope this helps, cheers,
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Re: mastering, what to do and what not to do
What he means is don't SLAM your levels (to 0 dbfs) to full scale on the master fader with a limiter plug-in (or just your mix in general on the master fader) as to leave the mastering engineer some room to work.
L.A.Branville PS. Quote: "Don't touch my levels now, I have them set just the way I want them". Samuel Jackson from the movie Jackie Brown |
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Re: mastering, what to do and what not to do
faders go up to +6.0 DB so what is all of this 0db talk? Is one not supposed to set the faders past 0.0DB? Oh so confused..
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