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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
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15 years as PTHD User, Protools 2018 Ultimate, 24 Channel iCon D-Command, Avid Omni, Lynx Aurora 16, (2) BLA Modified 192 I/O’s, DigiPre, Way Too Many Outboard Compressors/EQ’s/ETC, where did all my money go???? |
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
Help us Neyrinck-Wan Kenobi, you’re our only hope. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
https://neyrinck.com/v-control-pro/
Who has bought this and used it yet? Currently $199 to own it for $49 a year rental....
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
They *couldn't care less.
just saying. I though avid stomped down hard on this type of thing? now an industry pops up for it! Wish I'd dug in and reverse engineered it myself and made a few squids. |
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
While using latest pro tools versions, Ultimate/2018 HD whatever they call it now, My Control 24 is back at the center of my studio!!!! Thanks to Neyrinck and Vcontrol Pro. (I have no affiliation with Neyrinck, I just bought their product. )
I am so happy to be able to use this control surface with the latest versions again. I also like the fact that I get to snub my nose at Avid. This experience taught me - I don't buy anything from Avid unless I absolutely have to. I know what Avid is at its core - A snake that can hold me hostage anytime I get too close or God forbid, become dependent on their products. Never again. |
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
Don’t think that Neyrick did this without Avids blessings. They definitely signed off of this....humility and gratefulness is a much better attitude to have
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
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Can you post some vids? |
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
That's a very quiet roll out...
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Brian Campbell "Air mixes better than any console" Bill Porter "Humility is mighty important in this business of listening" Bob Olhsson |
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
I'm curious to know how well it works for ProControl. Especially with multiple units. I have a main unit ProControl, Edit Pack, and Fader Pack.
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
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For the record: I know nothing about how the new V-Control Pro works with a Control 24, I can only answer questions about the functionality with one or more ProControl units. To answer your question: it works very well inside the technical limitations inherent to the use of the old HUI protocol that exists since Pro Tools 5.3 (2003). In general V-Control Pro provides virtual MIDI ports that are set up in Pro Tools as MIDI peripherals using the HUI protocol. V-Control Pro connects to ProControl / Control 24 by Ethernet and translates them to the HUI protocol. Some buttons on ProControl / Control 24 do not function because HUI does not provide every feature on those surfaces. But HUI is a basically a good protocol and lets you do almost everything you really need for professional mix control. It works with a ProControl Main Unit and/or Fader Packs. This means you do not necessarily need a Main Unit, it also works with one ore more Fader Packs without a Main Unit. I suppose it also works with multiple Main Units, I don’t see why not, however I was not able to test this. The Edit Pack is not supported but maybe it will be partially supported in a future version. But the motorised joysticks on an Edit Pack will never be supported because Pro Tools does not provide surround pan position feedback in the HUI protocol. V-Control Pro works fine with 8, 16, 24 or maximum 32 faders (this is a HUI limitation). On my 48 fader ProControl I can freely choose 1, 2, 3 or 4 of the 6 units in V-Control Pro, even when Pro Tools is open and running. Bank and nudge buttons let you access all tracks that are in a Pro Tools session. What does work with ProControl: - faders with .1 dB resolution - Pan, Mute, Solo, Record - track select - sends A-E - sends flip to fader - all transport functions - plug-in editing will be available in a future version But there are some limitations due to the limitations of the HUI protocol: - no more then 32 faders - track names are limited to 4 characters - no sends are accessible beyond A-E - no ProControl Main Unit Channel Matrix - no Solo Clear button I’m working with ProControl since 1999 and I find these limitation very annoying. I hate scribble strips with just 4 characters and I was using the ProControl Main Unit Channel Matrix + the Solo Clear buttons on all my units a lot (muscle memory that has gone to waste now). But on the other hand, before this new version of V-Control Pro my ProControl was virtually dead with Pro Tools 11 and 12, now it has revived and has become a fancy HUI controller with the legendary marvellous faders of the ProControl and V-Control Pro makes it possible to use a lot of its original functionality. I do not know if there is some kind of agreement between Paul Neyrinck and AVID about V-Control Pro and supporting the Digidesign Legacy Controllers. But AVID can’t deliberately make V-Control Pro not work anymore in future Pro Tools updates exactly because V-Control Pro uses the HUI protocol to control Pro Tools. Dozens of control surfaces use the HUI protocol, if Avid stopped supporting HUI, it would make V-Control Pro and many other control surfaces incompatible.
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