12.8.2 and Midi : more disappointment.

[grayter1]

Originally Posted by john1192

I use which ever program works for which ever project i am working on .. music, post, etc .. have Cubase Pro 8, Studio One Artist, Reaper, LOgic 9, but have to use Pro Tools for most work, the others for some or just for a feature or two .. can be frustrating to not be able to do it all in one program .. and yes, PT feels better for Audio, and tolerable for Midi ..

This is my dilemma as well. I have to use PT for Post, although I use several other DAW's for composition.

That's why whenever this comes up, and people like me sound off, the reply is often, "Why are you even here?" or "Why don't you just use [program X] then?".

If PT wasn't a requirement for my job, I wouldn't.

The other point raised here is, if users haven't used another DAW for midi, then you have no idea what they're missing. Logic and Cubase do midi very well (both not without bugs, of course), but PT does audio better than most.

Therein lies the dilemma.

Which brings me back to my original point earlier in the thread - compose in Logic, mix in PT. People have been doing this for years.

tg

[cmbourget]

Originally Posted by john1192

did this translate correctly "Not the sound. Pt is better for recording and playback. And its use is universal in pro studios"

if this is correct, then you use it because you Have To, not because you Want to !!! i understand ..

i use which ever program works for which ever project i am working on .. music, post, etc .. have Cubase Pro 8, Studio One Artist, Reaper, LOgic 9, but have to use Pro Tools for most work, the others for some or just for a feature or two .. can be frustrating to not be able to do it all in one program .. and yes, PT feels better for Audio, and tolerable for Midi ..

cheers and thank you john

Yes John, that's right. Forgive me, I did not translate this part. I think exactly like you. Thank you !

[Philthy]

Originally Posted by cmbourget

The first thing is the interface: 4 windows with drop down menus and sliders. These drop-down menus, in the same windows, lead us to different functions that can be useful in chain, quickly. Which is impossible via drop-down menus. A drop-down menu, it dates from the time when the screens were small, without HD. Today, we have enough space. All these windows should be open in one panel, where everything is directly accessible. On the other hand, these windows are dysfunctional. For example: if I have already entered with my mouse a set of notes and I want to mount them an octave, I open the panel, I unwind the menu and I move the silly slider or I enter +1 or - 1. But it does not work, because I opened the stupid window after. I have to re-enter the notes with my mouse, once the window is open. Another example: no shortcuts to go up or down the octave. In an orchestral arrangement, we do that 1000 times. And I do not even talk about filter changes that Cubase and even Reaper allows. PT has great success in MIDI, but the work is not finished. People who are satisfied with PT simply do not know the possibilities of other daw. That's why they are happy. I gave quick examples, but there are hundreds.

Agreed, the MIDI operations panels are buggy for data entry. They seem to have a problem with losing focus, so sometimes hitting enter makes it act, while other times nothing happens. There's no visual feedback when it happens, so it's painful to figure out if things take or not.

[Philthy]

I wish MIDI tracks would default to note view. Also I wish that region edits would not bleed through into note view as a cluttered mess of vertical lines all over the note track. It's useless, ugly, and hard to look at.

[cmbourget]

Originally Posted by grayter1

This is my dilemma as well. I have to use PT for Post, although I use several other DAW's for composition.

That's why whenever this comes up, and people like me sound off, the reply is often, "Why are you even here?" or "Why don't you just use [program X] then?".

If PT wasn't a requirement for my job, I wouldn't.

The other point raised here is, if users haven't used another DAW for midi, then you have no idea what they're missing. Logic and Cubase do midi very well (both not without bugs, of course), but PT does audio better than most.

Therein lies the dilemma.

Which brings me back to my original point earlier in the thread - compose in Logic, mix in PT. People have been doing this for years.

tg

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