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Replicated CDs don\'t sound as good as the original
I just got my replicated CDs back. When compared side by side to the final 16 bit PMCD provided by the mastering engineer, I noticed very slight discrepancies in sound and on the waveforms I loaded back into Pro Tools.
The mastering engineer told me, "The replicated CD is pressed with injection molding. When doing a run of 100 or 100 million, there is a slight discrepancy and there is nothing anyone can do about it. You are in the same boat as everyone else. When we go to data downloads as the final product, this problem will go away" - Big Time NYC Mastering Guy Can anyone confirm this? When I copy the CD from the mastering engineer, it's perfect. The one from replication sounds almost perfect. Comments anyone????
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Re: Replicated CDs don\'t sound as good as the orig
So what´s up? this way everyone can have their own unique copy
OK, as long as everybody does not have excactly the same playback device, the same set of ears and the same cultural expierience and background it´s useless bothering about these discrepancies. And the ghetto blaster army won´t notice the difference anyway. Nobody will unles they invest at least $$$$ in a high range CD-player amp, speakers and cables. Variation and change is the essence of life and culture, if the message is understood the rest is secondary (also there IS a discussion about form and function) . Besides, if your music needs to be THIS EXCACT to be distinguishable from other artists then you are hunting the wrong Snark regs (in total ingnorance to the technical problems in the post referred to.)
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Re: Replicated CDs don\'t sound as good as the orig
This sounds wrong to me. Yes, there might be variations caused by pressing the CD. Minor differences from disk to disk.
But those differences should not be large enough to hear, or see when viewing the approximations of the waveform we get in ProTools.
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no way......
Pro tools draws it's waveforms very fast. I suspect that you could import the same track from the same CD twice and see disparaties in the waveforms.
Inequities between a PMCD and it's copies would manifest themselves as errors, and in severe cases, repetitive noise or 'ticks' in the playback. Your ears are playing tricks on you maybe. |
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Re: no way......
definitely employ a method of A/B of the tracks where you do not know which is playing.
If indeed there are inconsistancies in the Dups and the original, have the pressing plant redo them, or get your money back. You should not in identical playback cheains be abele to hear any difference. |
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Re: no way......
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Re: Replicated CDs don\'t sound as good as the orig
So to be a little contructive:
get the PMCD into PT, ripp the same track from CD and import and reverse the phase (with EQ, e.g.) hit play. you should be hearing exactly nothing. Do a BTD to examine the leftovers. regs
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Re: Replicated CDs don\'t sound as good as the orig
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For what it's worth, I've used this method to test a number of CDs that I've sent away for production (to DiscMakers and Oasis), and the pressed CDs typically come back as perfect bit-for-bit copies of the master. James [email protected] |
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Re: Replicated CDs don\'t sound as good as the orig
Check out the March 2000 EQ article by Roger Nichols on the subject. It's an old article, but still may have some relevance.
www.rogernichols.com Click on the "EQ Columns" in the left column, and then select the March 2000 article. |
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Re: Replicated CDs don\'t sound as good as the orig
This is a very good article. I have also heard that I need to find a company that will record at 4x instead of 16x and also ask them to calibrate the machines before the run. I am a bit confused though, the speed relates to making the glass master, not the injection molding????
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