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We have virtually no unions in the UK since Mrs Thatcher smashed them..
Average London rates for post sound £40 per hour for good mixers, the fluffier ones get 30-35. The good people are busy. I would add some equipment charge on top too. Remember, the production are saving a ton in using you compared to Soho rates of £120 an hour minimum. Charge too little and you will find it hard to ever charge more and will be pigeon holed as cheap. It's a game of poker..... Raise you.?
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Re: Freelance Sound Designer/ Mixer rates
Charge a cheap rate and people will see your work (and skills) as cheap - not up to par...
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First and foremost, you need to find out why they want to hire you as a freelancer. Is it for your skills as a mixer or is it that they think they will get you a lot cheaper? I suggest you ask the producer what their budget is for the work you will be doing. It would seem by your post that you have done some work for the producer while at a facility. If that is the case then find out what they are paying the facility and then work out a comparable price from that. I would be inclined to ask for the same amount as they are already paying but maybe be a bit more flexible with OT rates. ie. just charge the same hourly amount up to 12 hrs. If it is really your skills they want then they shouldn't mind paying.
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Many thanks for the tips all. I'll do my thinking and see how it goes!
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The best thing is hinted at by HD2 above--ask around through people at the places you've already worked.
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If I got residuals I'd be a rich guy. You don't get paid residuals for mixing, EVER! Who told you that? Actors do, and even ADR Groups do (what a joke- we mix for weeks and they work a day and get residuals).
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Out of interest, would you say ADR/foley mixer rates are around the same? Or are those figures above primarily for dubbing mixers? If so, what would the going rate be for ADR/foley mixing? |
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don't know of any freelance adr/foley mixers so can't comment.
this tends to be a staff role in a facility. Personally I think it is highly under rated as a skill and I am VERY fussy about who I let record my foley or ADR. I like to do it myself if I have the time. A good jobbing dubbing mixer should be able to cope with anything thrown at him - hence the rate. Less experienced people get less and work less. Economics really. BECTU? When I was at the BBC in the late 80's/early90's there were hardly any BECTU members in the 150 strong sound dept. Most people felt they were not in their interest and were weak and ineffective. Sad but true. Thatcher's legacy lives on.....
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That's good to hear. From my experience, good results are difficult to achieve in both of these disciplines, especially if people just 'have a go at it'. I've seen very good dubbing mixers make a hash of ADR (and foleys) because they thought "...it's just pushing faders..." and they already know how to do that in a dub. It's really not as simple as it looks and you definitely need plenty of previous experience to get quality results. |
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