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Old 07-26-2009, 07:15 AM
WATYF WATYF is offline
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Default Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

I had a hard drive crash a week or two ago... I keep regular backups of my drives, so no big deal. I got the new drive, restored the image to the drive and fired it back up. One of the first things I did was open Pro Tools and run a session I had recently worked on. Everything ran fine.

A week or so later, I go to open Pro Tools to track something... it freezes up during the Plugin initialization. It stopped while loading the Waves shells (I have several Waves plugins). I figured maybe the authorization for Waves got messed up after the crash, so I removed all plugins from the DAE/Plugins folder and tried opening Pro Tools. It opened just fine.

So I added in everything back in except the Waves shells, but it still locked up while loading plug ins. So I tried a complete reinstall. I ran the Pro Tools remover (for version 8). I uninstalled my Waves plugins. Then I reinstalled just Pro Tools. Tried to open it... no dice. It locked up while trying to load Structure.

So... why would Pro Tools keep failing while loading plugins?

WATYF
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

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I had a hard drive crash a week or two ago... I keep regular backups of my drives, so no big deal. I got the new drive, restored the image to the drive and fired it back up. One of the first things I did was open Pro Tools and run a session I had recently worked on. Everything ran fine.

A week or so later, I go to open Pro Tools to track something... it freezes up during the Plugin initialization. It stopped while loading the Waves shells (I have several Waves plugins). I figured maybe the authorization for Waves got messed up after the crash, so I removed all plugins from the DAE/Plugins folder and tried opening Pro Tools. It opened just fine.

So I added in everything back in except the Waves shells, but it still locked up while loading plug ins. So I tried a complete reinstall. I ran the Pro Tools remover (for version 8). I uninstalled my Waves plugins. Then I reinstalled just Pro Tools. Tried to open it... no dice. It locked up while trying to load Structure.

So... why would Pro Tools keep failing while loading plugins?

WATYF
I have no direct answer for you, but i would try:
1 Update PACE drivers
2 When you reinstalled PT did you follow all the general troubleshootingtips?
3 Start the project holding down the Shift-key so it opens with all the plugins deactivated, then activate a few save a backup session somewhere and restart, until you find out which of the plugins that are messing with you.

Good Luck!
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Old 07-26-2009, 02:25 PM
WATYF WATYF is offline
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

1) I already got the latest PACE drivers.
2) I ran the troubleshooting steps when I built the machine.
3) It isn't a session that's failing... it's Pro Tools itself. I can't even get to the part where you try to open a session.


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Old 07-26-2009, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

Download the Pro Tools Tech Support Folder and generate a complete plugin list. Copy/paste it here for the guru's to have a gander at.
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Old 07-26-2009, 04:20 PM
WATYF WATYF is offline
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

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Download the Pro Tools Tech Support Folder and generate a complete plugin list. Copy/paste it here for the guru's to have a gander at.
I downloaded that, but don't see where it generates a plugin list. I ran the thing that says "Remove Plugin and toolkit warnings" and that appears to take some of the plugins out of the DAE\plugins folder and put them in the Plugins(unused) folder. Then I tried launching Pro Tools again... this time, it made it all the way through the load, but then gave me this error as soon as PT was loaded.


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Old 07-26-2009, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

Maybe this will help:

http://duc.digidesign.com/showthread...73#post1420273
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Old 07-26-2009, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

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OK. That solved the Divide by zero issue, but it still won't load when I have Structure in the plug in folder.


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Old 07-26-2009, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

And it's not just Structure... if I put Autotune (or Waves shells) in the plugins folder, it won't load either.

WATYF
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Old 07-26-2009, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

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Download the Pro Tools Tech Support Folder and generate a complete plugin list. Copy/paste it here for the guru's to have a gander at.
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I downloaded that, but don't see where it generates a plugin list.
Look for the Generate Version List option in the Tech Support Utility.

Creates a text file on the Desktop called “Pro Tools Version List” that lists the version number of the Pro Tools
application, all installed plug-ins, all installed Toolkit options and DigiTranslator 2.

Further, it would help to know a bit more about your system hardware. Might want to post a PC Wizard report from the same download.

What Digi hardware are you using?
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Old 07-26-2009, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools freezes up while loading plug-ins....

TS LogFile Created Sun Jul 26 18:11:33 2009


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