Streaming a session over the Net

[Frank Kruse]

Originally Posted by Sonopolis

That looks interesting, but how would cinesync sync to the ProTools video? Or does it have a live input?

No ProTools. It simply syncs multiple QT players across the net and you can talk through an approval session where each member can scroll around the QT and give notes. It's mainly aimed at VFX/editing people but it's good to have spotting session remotely. Each client can scrub around and make comments.

It does not do live streaming of a 5.1 mix that you change while you are online.

For that source-connect or ISDN is the way to go, I guess. But then: WHo is going to config SC for the client when he's trying to join a mix while lying at the pool in the Bahamas with his laptop?
How is a client on a laptop (2$ speakers) going to approve a mix anyway regardless of the quality of the audio-stream?

[kd_special]

Originally Posted by Frank Kruse

http://www.cinesync.com/

This looks perfect. One thing I was ting to figure out is if the software syncs my video and the clients video together or will we both be streaming something from their (cinisync) servers?

I don't see a how this works page...

I'm gonna download trail tommorow.

Thanzks again

[Frank Kruse]

Originally Posted by kd_special

This looks perfect. One thing I was ting to figure out is if the software syncs my video and the clients video together or will we both be streaming something from their (cinisync) servers?

I don't see a how this works page...

I'm gonna download trail tommorow.

Thanzks again

I think there's an online manual that explains how it works (click on "uploading media" in the manual. I think the QT goes up to their server and then is automatically distributes the QT to the clients, but if the QTs are already on each machine it simply syncs those. The QT itself runs locally. Only the sync-signal and the notes (drawings etc.) are streamed live.

[reichman]

+1 for Cinesync. Super cool.

[Sonopolis]

Originally Posted by Frank Kruse

No ProTools. It simply syncs multiple QT players across the net and you can talk through an approval session where each member can scroll around the QT and give notes. It's mainly aimed at VFX/editing people but it's good to have spotting session remotely. Each client can scrub around and make comments.

It does not do live streaming of a 5.1 mix that you change while you are online.

I understand, thanks. If it's that what the OP wants, then it looks like a good solution. The title of the thread was suggesting something else.

[kd_special]

Originally Posted by Sonopolis

I understand, thanks. If it's that what the OP wants, then it looks like a good solution. The title of the thread was suggesting something else.

you are correct this setup does not allow us to make changes to the mix as the client requests during the screening. Which would be ideal. SC is still looking like the best all round option. However for a lot of other things this would be perfect like our agency clients.

kd

[Jimmix]

+1 for Source-Connect w/ RTS to lock your audio stream to your client's local video playback. Why waist bandwidth, kill the picture quality, and risk drop outs streaming the same picture over and over again? Also the latency is lower than using a broadcast solution w/ a much bigger video data stream. Source Elements even has a beta 5.1/surround version of Source-Connect. Just like Mike said ... simply prebake your clients session with all the video files in place and send it to them. If they don't have ProTools they can use any rewire enabled software (i bet even garageband). Screen share (w/ log me in or what have you) to administer their setup if you need to help them directly. If you are doing an entire project even Fedex them a laptop with everything ready to go. Its practically the same approach as a remote ADR session except its a remote mix session.

[kd_special]

Originally Posted by Jimmix

+1 for Source-Connect w/ RTS to lock your audio stream to your client's local video playback. Why waist bandwidth, kill the picture quality, and risk drop outs streaming the same picture over and over again? Also the latency is lower than using a broadcast solution w/ a much bigger video data stream. Source Elements even has a beta 5.1/surround version of Source-Connect. Just like Mike said ... simply prebake your clients session with all the video files in place and send it to them. If they don't have ProTools they can use any rewire enabled software (i bet even garageband). Screen share (w/ log me in or what have you) to administer their setup if you need to help them directly. If you are doing an entire project even Fedex them a laptop with everything ready to go. Its practically the same approach as a remote ADR session except its a remote mix session.

Thanks for your replys guys and gals. We will be using the Haivision system it's damn expensive but it works flawlessly. They use this system for hospitals for major operations all over the world. This will allow them
HD picture etc and they will watch the show in their boardroom. On a big tv so it should be really awesome at 11000 price tag it should be good it requires a steady 4 mg pipe which isn't much of our fiber system and they have fiber too. This is a 100 percent system for anyone of any skill level to use. It has voice ip hooks into it too for communication etc. Its gonna cost a lot but it's gonna work and this project will pay for it.

Thanks again for all your help

Kd

[smashprod]

I'm looking to to a music spotting session over the net; editor and director in the cutting room, composer and music editor in other remote locations. Bandwidth may be a problem, because the composer will be in a hotel, but getting everybody identical QTs of the picture should not be a problem. CineSync or Source Connect?

Best,
David

[minister]

Originally Posted by smashprod

I'm looking to to a music spotting session over the net; editor and director in the cutting room, composer and music editor in other remote locations. Bandwidth may be a problem, because the composer will be in a hotel, but getting everybody identical QTs of the picture should not be a problem. CineSync or Source Connect?

Best,
David

I don't have a real recommendation, other than to point out the pitfalls to be mindful of.

It looks you mean to say 3 locations? If so, as great as SC is, you'll need 3 licenses; each person will need to know how to set it up and use it; and while I guess it can be done, SC in a hotel room might be tricky. For SC you need a static IP and port forwarding, not sure how you do port forwarding in a hotel. Maybe someone will have an answer here, or contact the guys at SC.

You can rent SC, so maybe that helps. And Cinesync looks scalable in terms of users and subscriptions too.

Don't know how much money or how high end your project needs to be at this stage, but I would think to simply do a spotting session, a BITC stamped QT that everyone references and the phone or Skype would be better. Reason I say this is a spotting session is mostly watching stopping and talking. Not a lot of audio needs to get played back at high quality to any one in a remote location. ...maybe that is an argument for Cinesync.