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Old 03-01-2009, 09:47 PM
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Default PT 8.0 HD RTAS VI glitches

System:
Brand new Mac Pro 2 x Quad core 2.8GHz
10GB RAM
OS X 10.5.6
PT 8.0 HD3 (also tried cs1)
Drive 1: OS X 7200rpm internal SATA
Drive 2: Dedicated Audio WD Raptor 10Krpm internal SATA
Drive 3: Dedicated RTAS VI sounds 7200rpm internal SATA
Drive 4: External eSATA Proavio EB10 10 x 1TB 7200rm SATA hardware RAID5
Digi/Magma EB7 PCIe chassis (HD3 cards, 2 x UAD2)
Highpoint 2340 PCIe eSATA HBA
Absolutely latest plug-ins from loads of vendors

Problem:
RTAS VIs clicking, popping, glitching, hanging.

Here is a shortlist of RTAS VI plugs that I have tested so far and am having problems with. I have read all Digi FAQs/stickies on RTAS performance tuning, and the equivalent VI vendor advice.

These plugs are having glitching/hanging problems on a stereo instrument track in a new 24 bit/44.1KHz session with no other tracks:

- BFD2 (I have open posts on the fxpansion forum)
- NI Absynth 4
- Omnisphere
- Trilogy
- The entire Arturia V Collection
- SampleMoog, SampleTron
- GForce M-Tron

When used in combination with 1-3 other RTAS VIs, I also get problems with:

- Stylus RMX (6-8 simultaneous patterns)
- Xpand2! (3 or 4 simultaneous patches)
- Hybrid (one or two instances)

These RTAS VI plugs seem to be behaving:

- Ivory (Grand, Upright)

I have many more to test, but given the results above, this is not good. The common features of the problems I am experiencing are:

- Clicking, popping, audio glitches

- Sometimes the VI plug hangs, but PT does not (e.g. some BFD2 grooves hang after playing them for 1-3 mins, BFD2 standalone is ok)

- Frequent RTAS CPU spikes (50-100%), regardless of using 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1 cores of my new 8 core Mac Pro, regardless of CPU % setting, other Playback Engine settings etc.

- Problems are independent of where the VI samples are stored - I have run tests against a dedicated internal 7200rpm SATA drive, and on an external eSATA 10 drive RAID5 array (Proavio EB10) which I have benchmarked at a sustained 350Mbyte/sec read performance.

- Problems exist in PT HD 8.0 (DVD install) and cs1. They appear to be (perhaps) slightly worse under cs1. I have not tried cs2 as this does not (AFAICS) have RTAS fixes in it.

Note that I have 2 other rigs in addition to the HD3 - both PT8.0 LE - and there are somewhat similar RTAS issues there.

Can you confirm if the rumours about RTAS and OS X 10.5.x CPU spiking and audio glitching are true (as mentioned on DUC and hinted at by Spectrasonics, NI, fxpansion and others)? If so, is this being addressed, and what is the expected timeframe?

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Old 03-02-2009, 01:12 PM
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: PT 8.0 HD RTAS VI glitches

Hi again

Here's some more info.

1. Which drive you're recording/playing back from

Dedicated internal 10krpm WD Raptor 150GB SATA

2. If you have video in your session

No

3. If you have any other peripherals connected to your computer and, if so, what are they.

Digi/Magma EB7 PCIe expansion chassis, connected via Digi/Magma PCIe expansion card in Mac Pro slot 2 (x16 PCIe rev 2.0)

Proavio EB10 eSATA 10 drive chassis, connected via Highpoint 2340 PCIe HBA in Mac Pro slot 3 (x4 PCIe rev 1). Note that I am not using this storage for these tests.


4. Have you tried reducing the number of processors by 1 and, if so, did anything change.

Yes. No.

5. Did you do a clean install of Leopard or did you upgrade from Tiger?

Clean. Brand new Mac Pro.

6. Did you do a clean install of Pro Tools 8 or did you have a previous version installed and just upgrade it?

Clean.

7. Please post your plug-in versions

Code:
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRChorus.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRDistortion.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRDynamicDelay.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIREnhancer.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIREnsemble.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRFilterGate.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRFlanger.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRFrequencyShifter.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRFuzz-Wah.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRKillEQ.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRLo-Fi.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRMulti-Chorus.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRMulti-Delay.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRNon-linearReverb.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRPhaser.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRReverb.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRSpringReverb.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRStereoWidth.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRTalkbox.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AIRVintageFilter.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/ARP2600 V.dpm	1.2.1, Copyright 2006 Arturia	1.2.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AVOX THROAT.dpm	1.1.2, Copyright ? 2007 Antares Audio Technologies. All Rights Reserved.	1.1.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Absynth 4.dpm	4.0.5, Copyright ? 2006 Native Instruments	4.0.5, Copyright ? 2006 Native Instruments
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Access Music Indigo.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Acoustic Feedback.dpm	Acoustic Feedback 1.0.5 (c) 2007-2009 Softube - All rights reserved	1.0.5
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AkoustikPiano.dpm	1.1.3, Copyright ? 2006 Native Instruments	1.1.3, Copyright ? 2006 Native Instruments
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/AmpliTubeJimiHendrix.dpm	AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix 1.0, Copyright 2007 IK Multimedia.	1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Aphex Aural Exciter.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Aphex BigBottom Pro.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Auto-Tune_Evo_RTAS.dpm	6.0.6, Copyright ? 2008 Antares Audio Technologies	6.0.6
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Auto-Tune_Evo_TDM.dpm	6.0.6, Copyright ? 2008 Antares Audio Technologies	6.0.6
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/B4 II.dpm	2.0.4, Copyright ? 2005 Native Instruments	2.0.4, Copyright ? 2005 Native Instruments
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/B4 II.mopi	2.0.0, Copyright ? 2003 Native-Instruments	2.0.0, Copyright ? 2003 Native-Instruments
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/BF Essential Clip Remover.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/BF Essential Corr.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/BF Essential Meter.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/BF Essential Noise.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/BFD2.dpm	null	2.1.0.41
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Band Delays (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.3.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.3.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Boom.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Brickwall Limiter.dpm	BrickwallLimiter 1.2.01  ? 2006 TC Electronic A/S - All rights reserved	BrickwallLimiter 1.2.01 
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Broadband Noise Reduction LE.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Broadband Noise Reduction TDM.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/CS-80V (10 voices).dpm	1.6.1, Copyright 2006 Arturia	1.6.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/CS-80V.dpm	1.6.1, Copyright 2006 Arturia	1.6.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Chorus.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Click.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Cosmonaut Voice.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/D-Verb.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/DB-33.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/DVR2.dpm	DVR2 1.2.02  ? 2006 TC Electronic A/S - All rights reserved	DVR2 1.2.02 
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/DigiReWire.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Dither.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Drumagog.dpm	1.0x0, Copyright 2006 FXpansion Audio UK Ltd..	1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/DrumagogFL.dpm	1.0x0, Copyright 2006 FXpansion Audio UK Ltd..	1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Dynamics III.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/E-Channel (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.1.1 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.1.1 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/EMI TG 12412 UB.dpm	1.0.1, Copyright 2005, All Rights Reserved	1.0.1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/EMI TG 12413 UB.dpm	1.1.8, Copyright 2005, All Rights Reserved	1.1.8.6
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/EMI TG 12414 UB.dpm	1.0.1, Copyright 2005, All Rights Reserved	1.0.1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/EQ III.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/EQ45 (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.1.1 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.1.1 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/EQ65 (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.1.1 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.1.1 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/ESB TDM.dpm	ESB 2.1x5 plug-in for Logic Pro on TDM systems, ? 2003-2005 Apple Computer, Inc. All rights reserved.	5
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/EXS24 TDM.dpm	EXS24 2.1x5 plug-in for Logic Pro on TDM systems, ? 2003-2005 Apple Computer, Inc. All rights reserved.	5
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Echo Farm.dpm	2.30, Copyright 2006 Line 6	2.30
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Elastic Audio.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Elektrik Piano 1.5.dpm	1.5.0, Copyright ? 2007 Native Instruments	1.5.0, Copyright ? 2007 Native Instruments
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Eleven Free.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Eleven LE.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Eleven.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Eventide Reverb (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.3.1 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.3.1 (Anthology II)
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:01 AM
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Code:
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Factory (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.2.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.2.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Fairchild 660.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Fairchild 670.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Flanger.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Focusrite d2.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Focusrite d3.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Guitar Rig 3.dpm	3.2.0, Copyright ? 2008 Native Instruments	3.2.0, Copyright ? 2008 Native Instruments
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/H910 Harmonizer (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.4.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.4.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/H949 Harmonizer (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.4.3 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.4.3 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Harmony4.dpm	Harmony4 1.3.00  ? 2008 TC Helicon Vocal Technologies - All rights reserved	Harmony4 1.3.00 
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Hybrid.dpm	1.5.2.7597 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.5.2.7597
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Instant Flanger (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.4.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.4.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Instant Phaser (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.4.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.4.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Invert-Duplicate.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Ivory.dpm	1.71.24, ?2004-08 Synthogy, LLC	1.71.24
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/JOEMEEK Compressor.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/JOEMEEK Meequalizer.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Jupiter-8V.dpm	1.1.1, Copyright 2006 Arturia	1.1.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Line 6/PODFarm.dpm		1.0.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/LoFi.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/MD3.dpm	MD3 1.2.02  ? 2006 TC Electronic A/S - All rights reserved	MD3 1.2.02 
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/MDWEQ3_3B.dpm	3.0.0r14, Copyright 2006-2008 Massenburg Design Works.	3.0.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/MDWEQ3_5B.dpm	3.0.0r14, Copyright 2006-2008 Massenburg Design Works.	3.0.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/MM_ATA.dpm	1.2d, Copyright 2008 Mellowmuse Software	1.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/MTron.dpm	3.1.0.18 (3.1.0.16), Copyright GForce 2007	7.3d0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/MasterX3.dpm	MasterX3 4.0.01 Beta ? 2006 TC Electronic A/S - All rights reserved	MasterX3 4.0.01 Beta
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Maxim.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Melodyne plugin.dpm	Melodyne plugin 1.0.4.2 Copyright 1999-2008 Celemony Software GmbH	1.0.4.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/MiniGrand.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Minimonsta_RTASMachO.dpm	Copyright ? Ohm Force 2000-2008.	
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Minimonsta_fx_RTASMachO.dpm	Copyright ? Ohm Force 2000-2008.	
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Mod Delay II.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Moog Modular V 2.dpm	2.2.1, Copyright 2006 Arturia	2.2.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Multi-Tap Delay.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/NONLIN2.dpm	NONLIN2 1.2.02  ? 2006 TC Electronic A/S - All rights reserved	NONLIN2 1.2.02 
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Normalize-Gain.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Octavox (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.3.1 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.3.1 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Oddity_RTASMachO.dpm	Copyright ? Ohm Force 2000-2008.	
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Omnipressor (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.4.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.4.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/OmnisphereWrapper.dpm	1.6b5, Copyright 2006 Spectrasonics	1.6b5
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/PTA (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.1.1 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.1.1 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Phoenix.dpm	2.4.4x24, Copyright 2002-2007 Crane Song Ltd.	2.4.4
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Ping-Pong Delay.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Pitch.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Pro-53.dpm	3.0.4, Copyright ? 2007 Native Instruments	3.0.4, Copyright ? 2007 Native Instruments
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Prophet V.dpm	1.2, Copyright 2006 Arturia	1.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Pultec EQH-2.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Pultec EQP-1A.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Pultec MEQ-5.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Purple Audio MC77.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Quadravox (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.1.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.1.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/RS127 Box.dpm	RS127 Box 1.0.6 � 2008 Abbey Road - All rights reserved		1.0.6
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/RS127 Rack.dpm	RS127 Rack 1.0.6 � 2008 Abbey Road - All rights reserved	1.0.6
j/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/RS135.dpm	RS135 1.0.6 � 2008 Abbey Road - All rights reserved	1.0.6
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/ReVibe.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/RectiFi.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Reel Tape Delay.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Reel Tape Flanger.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Reel Tape Saturation.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Reverb One.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Reverse-DC Removal.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SampleMoog.dpm	SampleMoog 1.0, Copyright 2007 IK Multimedia	1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SampleTron.dpm	SampleTron 1.0, Copyright 2008 IK Multimedia	1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SansAmp PSA-1.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SciFi.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Signal Generator.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SignalTools.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Smack! LE.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Smack! TDM.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SonyOxfordDynamics.dpm	1.6.2, Copyright 2007 Sonnox.	1.6.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SonyOxfordTransMod.dpm	1.5.2, Copyright 2007 Sonnox.	1.5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/Crystallizer.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/Echoboy.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/FilterFreak.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/PhaseMistress.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/PitchBlender.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/PitchDoctor.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/PurePitch.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/Speed.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/TimeBlender.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/SoundToys/Tremolator.dpm	3.1.0, Authorization: SoundToys TDM Effects V3, Copyright 1995-2008 SoundToys Inc.	3.1.0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Stereo Mixer.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Strike.dpm	1.0.2.7527 Copyright 2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.2.7527
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Structure.dpm	1.0.2.7584 Copyright 2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.2.7584
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/StylusRMXWrapper.dpm	1.6b6, Copyright 2006 Spectrasonics	1.6b6
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Surround Mixer.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Synchronic.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TL AutoPan.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TL Drum Rehab.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TL EveryPhase.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TL InTune.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TL MasterMeter.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TL Metro.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TL Space.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Tel-Ray Delay.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Time Comp-Exp-Pitch Shift.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Time Shift.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright ? 2005 by Digidesign, a division of Avid. All rights reserved.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TimeAdjuster.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/TrilogyWrapper.dpm	0.1, Copyright 2006 Spectrasonics	0.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Trim.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Ultra-Channel (Anth 2.0).dpm	1.1.2 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2008 Eventide, Inc.	1.1.2 (Anthology II)
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VSS3.dpm	VSS3 1.2.3.921 Beta ? 2006 TC Electronic A/S - All rights reserved	VSS3 1.2.3.921 Beta
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/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD 1176SE.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD CS-1.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Cambridge.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD DM-1.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD DM-1L.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD DelayComp.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD DreamVerb.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD EX-1.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Fairchild.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD GateComp.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Harrison 32C SE.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Harrison 32C.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Helios 69.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD LA2A.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD LA3A.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Little Labs IBP.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD ModFilter.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Moog Filter SE.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Moog Filter.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Neve 1073.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Neve 1073SE.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Neve 1081.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Neve 1081SE.dpm		5.2
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/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Neve 88RS.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Nigel.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Phasor.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Plate 140.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Precision Buss Com.dpm		5.2
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/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Precision Enhancer.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Precision Equalizer.dpm		5.2
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/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Precision Maximizer.dpm		5.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Precision Multiband.dpm		5.2
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jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Pultec-Pro.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Pultec.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD RS-1.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD RealVerb-Pro.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Roland CE-1.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Roland Dimension D.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Roland RE-201.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD SPL Transient Desi.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD TrackAdv.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD TremModEcho.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD Tremolo.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VW_UAD VCA VU.dpm		5.2
jLibrary/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Vacuum.dpm	1.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	1.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/VariFi.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/ViennaEnsemble.dpm	3.0 build 3238	7.0d0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/ViennaInstruments.dpm	2.0 build 3238	7.0d0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Voce Chorus-Vibrato.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/Voce Spin.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/WaveShell-DAE 5.9.8.dpm	null	5.9.8
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/WaveShell-DAE 6.0.6.dpm	null	6.0.6
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/WaveShell-DAE 6.1.1.dpm	null	6.1.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/WaveShell-DAE 6.1.2.dpm	null	6.1.2
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/XPand!.dpm	2.0.0.8542 Copyright 2005-2007 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	2.0.0.8542
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/bombfactory BF-2A.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/bombfactory BF-3A.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/bombfactory BF76.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/impOSCar.dpm	1.1.0.22 (1.1.0.234), Copyright GForce 2007	7.3d0
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/minimoog V.dpm	1.6.1, Copyright 2006 Arturia	1.6.1
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/moogerfooger AD.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/moogerfooger LP.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/moogerfooger Ph.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins/moogerfooger RM.dpm	8.0.0, Copyright 1991-2008 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.	8.0.0f314
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From what I can see, these are all incompatible:

AVOX THROAT.dpm 1.1.2,
AkoustikPiano.dpm 1.1.3
MD3.dpm MD3 1.2.02 (update to 1.2.2)
Prophet V.dpm 1.2 (update to 1.2.1)
Trilogy and Atmosphere (neither are compatible with Intel Mac)
VSS3.dpm VSS3 1.2.3.921 (update to 1.2.4)
Waves - are there supposed to be all those different versions in there? I don't think that looks right...

Also, did you see the following notice on the NI website?

For the following NI products, enabling the Playback Engine option "Ignore errors during record / playback" within Pro Tools can help significantly to avoid eventual issues:

ELEKTRIK PIANO 1.5
FM8
KORE 2
MASSIVE

Now, also keep in mind that you're in an unsupported/untested configuration with those UAD cards in the chassis (or anywhere in the system, for that matter) and they may be contributing to the problem.

The HBA card (Highpoint 2340 PCIe HBA) may also be contributing - it was never tested and is definitely not supported, especially in a RAID configuration. Even if it's not used for recording/playback, just having the card in the computer could cause problems.
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Hi DigiTechSupt

Thanks for looking at this. I really appreciate your help. I know there are lots of negative posts esp about RTAS but I'm just trying to stay positive and get this rig working. Jumping in with an x.0 version of any product is a risk and I accept that.

The plug-in versions are a moving target - I spent several days going through them all about three weeks ago and I have a rather large spreadsheet now with version numbers, download info, file names, workarounds, settings etc!

I'll update those versions. Shame about Trilogy, it was a "go to" plugin on the G5 and previous versions of PT.

Wrt Waves, FYI this is a vanilla installation of Waves Mercury TDM + SSL TDM. The Waves installer drops in various Waveshell dpm versions. In fact, it has done this for a number of years.

I'm aware of the NI issues and quite frankly I've pretty much given up on the NI RTAS plugins. Hence I've gone to Synthogy Ivory. I haven't tested Guitar Rig 3 yet - this is the only one I'll probably continue to use if it works.

Wrt the UAD cards, I'll remove them from the chassis and run the tests again.

Wrt the Highpoint card, the RAID array is not intended for PT recording. I am fully aware that RAID of any kind is not supported as an audio recording drive. It is intended as a large, fast, redundant streaming device for audio samples in some plug-ins. I fully understand that this is not supported, hence I will remove it and run the tests again. Should I also uninstall the OS X driver for this card?

Do you have any other advice about testing, and/or can you think of any other information I should be gathering or monitoring? Let's assume I have an infinite amount of time . Would it be worthwhile going back to scratch (new boot drive, fresh OS X, fresh PT 8.0 HD, minimal plugins)? Would it be worthwhile testing without the chassis - just the HD cards in the Mac Pro? Would it be worthwhile doing the same with PT7.4 as a comparison?

Thanks for your valuable advice - I just want to find a stable platform.
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From what I can see, these are all incompatible:

AVOX THROAT.dpm 1.1.2,
AkoustikPiano.dpm 1.1.3
MD3.dpm MD3 1.2.02 (update to 1.2.2)
Prophet V.dpm 1.2 (update to 1.2.1)
Trilogy and Atmosphere (neither are compatible with Intel Mac)
VSS3.dpm VSS3 1.2.3.921 (update to 1.2.4)
Waves - are there supposed to be all those different versions in there? I don't think that looks right...

Also, did you see the following notice on the NI website?

For the following NI products, enabling the Playback Engine option "Ignore errors during record / playback" within Pro Tools can help significantly to avoid eventual issues:

ELEKTRIK PIANO 1.5
FM8
KORE 2
MASSIVE

Now, also keep in mind that you're in an unsupported/untested configuration with those UAD cards in the chassis (or anywhere in the system, for that matter) and they may be contributing to the problem.

The HBA card (Highpoint 2340 PCIe HBA) may also be contributing - it was never tested and is definitely not supported, especially in a RAID configuration. Even if it's not used for recording/playback, just having the card in the computer could cause problems.
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Do you have any other advice about testing, and/or can you think of any other information I should be gathering or monitoring? Let's assume I have an infinite amount of time . Would it be worthwhile going back to scratch (new boot drive, fresh OS X, fresh PT 8.0 HD, minimal plugins)? Would it be worthwhile testing without the chassis - just the HD cards in the Mac Pro? Would it be worthwhile doing the same with PT7.4 as a comparison?
Let's say this - assuming you did a clean Leopard and Pro Tools install already, removing the questionable plug-ins and trashing prefs would probably be my first test. I'd go so far as to remove all but the default Pro Tools install of plug-ins, trash prefs (so plug-in data will be re-cached) and test again. That way you can determine if you'll be able to use the UAD or HBA cards. If it works, try introducing a few plug-ins at a time, always making sure they're the latest versions and not listed as being incompatible on our compatibility grid.

If removing the plug-ins doesn't work, I'd move to removing either the UAD or HBA card and test again. Narrow it down piece by piece, only changing one variable at a time so that you can identify the cause. Only remove everything and start from scratch if you want to go in the reverse order of only adding one thing at a time. Either approach will work - what you do in either case is try to be methodical about it.

Some of the plug-ins on the list, even though listed as compatible, will still require that you reduce the number of processors in the Playback Engine. I think you can safely reduce it by 1 and keep it there for all further testing.

I do know this can work - I'm not sure about the UAD cards (if I could get them to send me free cards, I'd test it myself, just to see what happens), but I've heard of others having success with them. Personally I avoid all questionable plug-ins and mourn the loss of Trilogy and Atmosphere as, like you, they were the 'go to' ones when I had a G5.
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Hi DigiTechSupt

Thanks. Just two - no, three - more questions before I embark on this.

1. Should I be testing using PT 8.0 cs2, cs1, or the default PT 8.0 HD DVD installation version?

2. At some point, if I do a clean install of OS X (from the 10.5.4 Apple OS X DVD) on a new boot drive, should I update it to 10.5.6 using the online "Software Update" facility in OS X, or should I upgrade using manually downloaded patch bundles from Apple? The reason for asking is that there is a Digi note that recommends upgrading to 10.5.5 via a manual patch bundle. It is not clear whether this applies to 10.5.6.

3. I'm putting together a list of tests. When using vanilla PT 8.0 HD with default plug-ins only, would it be reasonable to perform an initial test using a new 24/44.1KHz session comprising: 1 stereo instrument track (one Xpand2! insert with 4 simultaneous patches), plus 3 additional MIDI tracks (making a total of 4 MIDI sequences driving the 4 patches in Xpand2)? This is generating glitches in my current setup. Would you expect this to work without glitches in a vanilla install?

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Let's say this - assuming you did a clean Leopard and Pro Tools install already, removing the questionable plug-ins and trashing prefs would probably be my first test. I'd go so far as to remove all but the default Pro Tools install of plug-ins, trash prefs (so plug-in data will be re-cached) and test again. That way you can determine if you'll be able to use the UAD or HBA cards. If it works, try introducing a few plug-ins at a time, always making sure they're the latest versions and not listed as being incompatible on our compatibility grid.

If removing the plug-ins doesn't work, I'd move to removing either the UAD or HBA card and test again. Narrow it down piece by piece, only changing one variable at a time so that you can identify the cause. Only remove everything and start from scratch if you want to go in the reverse order of only adding one thing at a time. Either approach will work - what you do in either case is try to be methodical about it.

Some of the plug-ins on the list, even though listed as compatible, will still require that you reduce the number of processors in the Playback Engine. I think you can safely reduce it by 1 and keep it there for all further testing.

I do know this can work - I'm not sure about the UAD cards (if I could get them to send me free cards, I'd test it myself, just to see what happens), but I've heard of others having success with them. Personally I avoid all questionable plug-ins and mourn the loss of Trilogy and Atmosphere as, like you, they were the 'go to' ones when I had a G5.
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Default Re: PT 8.0 HD RTAS VI glitches

P.S. I could loan you a couple of UAD-1e (PCIe) cards if you want to run some tests against them. They can run the latest UAD 5.2 software (including the latest RTAS wrapper thingy). Let me know if you want to try it out.

I could probably loan you one of the UAD-2 cards as well, as long as I could get it back at some point.

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