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Old 12-08-2023, 01:06 AM
sound01 sound01 is offline
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Default M3 With Eucontrol

I'm running PT 2023.9.0 on a M3 MacBook Pro with Sonoma 14.1.1 without any issues, except Eucontrol crashes as soon as I launch it, then will happily launch on the second attempt every time, but won't connect to the setup, despite everything appearing normal in the 'surfaces', 'Workstations' and 'applications' windows of Eucontrol.

I know this set up is not officially compatible, and I'm still running an M1 to avoid issues, but I was wondering if anyone had a similar setup and had got the M3 and Eucontrol to play nicely together?

Other than the Eucontrol, this setup is great. Working in post, 3 screens, 500-600 voice sessions, multiple busses, video, etc etc, no problems.
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Old 12-08-2023, 09:15 AM
Darryl Ramm Darryl Ramm is online now
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Default Re: M3 With Eucontrol

What macOS is the M1 system running?... this is very unlikely to be M3 hardware specific. What exactly happens with the crash, is there a crash report/stack trace?
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Old 12-08-2023, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: M3 With Eucontrol

The M1 is running Monterey 12.6.3

Eucontrol crashes almost immediately after I launch it with '... quit unexpectedly.

I've posted the crash report if anyone can read it and work out the issue?

I've had a look through it, but nothing in my limited understanding of crash reports jumps out as the problem.

Cheers



-------------------------------------
Translated Report (Full Report Below)
-------------------------------------

Process: EuControl [57693]
Path: /Applications/EuControl.app/Contents/MacOS/EuControl
Identifier: com.Euphonix.EuControl
Version: 2023.11.0.121 (2023.11.0)
Code Type: ARM-64 (Native)
Parent Process: EuControl [57692]
Responsible: EuControl [57692]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2023-12-08 17:26:52.4457 +0000
OS Version: macOS 14.1.1 (23B2082)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 7DB621E8-8874-0BCF-BC00-28B371554E5E


Time Awake Since Boot: 30000 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000107654b0c
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000107654b0c

Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 11 Segmentation fault: 11
Terminating Process: exc handler [57693]

VM Region Info: 0x107654b0c is not in any region. Bytes after previous region: 2829 Bytes before following region: 259316
REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL
MALLOC metadata 107650000-107654000 [ 16K] rw-/rwx SM=COW
---> GAP OF 0x40000 BYTES
shared memory 107694000-107698000 [ 16K] r--/r-- SM=SHM

Application Specific Information:
*** multi-threaded process forked ***
crashed on child side of fork pre-exec


Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_trace.dylib 0x18160023c _os_log_preferences_refresh + 68
1 libsystem_trace.dylib 0x181600c9c os_log_type_enabled + 712
2 libnetworkextension.dylib 0x1955bd5fc NEFlowDirectorDestroy + 64
3 Network 0x1890b8c98 nw_path_release_globals + 240
4 Network 0x1892946ac nw_settings_child_has_forked() + 324
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1818a0f7c _pthread_atfork_child_handlers + 76
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x1817589c8 fork + 112
7 EuControl 0x10522b258 crashpad::SpawnSubprocess(std::__1::vector<std::__ 1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>> const&, std::__1::vector<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>> const*, int, bool, void (*)()) + 1020
8 EuControl 0x10521d018 crashpad:anonymous namespace)::HandlerStarter::CommonStart(base::File Path const&, base::FilePath const&, base::FilePath const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::map<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::less<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>, std::__1::allocator<std::__1:air<std::__1::basic _string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>>> const&, std::__1::vector<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>> const&, base::ScopedGeneric<unsigned int, base::mac::internal::ReceiveRightTraits>, crashpad:anonymous namespace)::HandlerStarter*, bool) + 2244
9 EuControl 0x10521bdc8 crashpad::CrashpadClient::StartHandler(base::FileP ath const&, base::FilePath const&, base::FilePath const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::map<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::less<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>, std::__1::allocator<std::__1:air<std::__1::basic _string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>>> const&, std::__1::vector<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>>>> const&, bool, bool, std::__1::vector<base::FilePath, std::__1::allocator<base::FilePath>> const&) + 880
10 EuControl 0x104283634 CrashpadUtils::InitCrashpad(std::__1::basic_string <char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&) + 1544
11 EuControl 0x10433c828 main + 576
12 dyld 0x1815210e0 start + 2360


Thread 0 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit):
x0: 0x00000001d7a95f6c x1: 0x0000000181615a35 x2: 0x0000000001000104 x3: 0x0000000000000000
x4: 0x00000001816159e7 x5: 0x000000016bb7e820 x6: 0x0000000000000074 x7: 0x0000000000000000
x8: 0x0000000107654b0a x9: 0x00000001d7aa0590 x10: 0x0000000000000001 x11: 0x0000600001beb6f0
x12: 0x0000000000000001 x13: 0x0000600000c7002a x14: 0x00000000ffffffe6 x15: 0x000000018161528b
x16: 0x000000018185d294 x17: 0x00000001e0a8cab8 x18: 0x0000000000000000 x19: 0x0000600001beb6c0
x20: 0x0000600001beb6c0 x21: 0x0000000107654b0e x22: 0x0000000107654b0e x23: 0x0000600002a23d18
x24: 0x000000016bb7f288 x25: 0x0000000000000016 x26: 0x000000016bb7f780 x27: 0x000000014da04ec0
x28: 0x000000014da04ec0 fp: 0x000000016bb7ed50 lr: 0x0000000181600220
sp: 0x000000016bb7ed00 pc: 0x000000018160023c cpsr: 0x20001000
far: 0x0000000107654b0c esr: 0x92000007 (Data Abort) byte read Translation fault

Binary Images:
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0x1955b3000 - 0x1955e9fff libnetworkextension.dylib (*) <ec7aa585-15a4-311b-b56b-bed845652fdd> /usr/lib/libnetworkextension.dylib
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0x181736000 - 0x1817b4ffb libsystem_c.dylib (*) <39cc111c-f4f1-373d-9f61-4532b3086cbb> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib
0x18151b000 - 0x1815af317 dyld (*) <efab0dc4-ad82-3527-8267-158fa446599c> /usr/lib/dyld
0x0 - 0xffffffffffffffff ??? (*) <00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000> ???
0x18185b000 - 0x181895fef libsystem_kernel.dylib (*) <b7751381-1442-30b5-91b9-ad7be461bebe> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib

External Modification Summary:
Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by all processes on this machine:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0

VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=1.1G resident=0K(0%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=1.1G(100%)
Writable regions: Total=919.3M written=0K(0%) resident=0K(0%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=919.3M(100%)

VIRTUAL REGION
REGION TYPE SIZE COUNT (non-coalesced)
=========== ======= =======
Activity Tracing 256K 1
ColorSync 16K 1
Kernel Alloc Once 32K 1
MALLOC 904.4M 47
MALLOC guard page 192K 12
STACK GUARD 56.0M 1
Stack 11.7M 8
Stack Guard 112K 7
__AUTH 739K 175
__AUTH_CONST 12.8M 322
__DATA 6148K 310
__DATA_CONST 15.9M 325
__DATA_DIRTY 700K 108
__FONT_DATA 4K 1
__LINKEDIT 913.8M 2
__OBJC_RO 70.8M 1
__OBJC_RW 2156K 1
__TEXT 261.4M 338
dyld private memory 272K 2
libnetwork 128K 8
mapped file 31.5M 1
shared memory 64K 4
=========== ======= =======
TOTAL 2.2G 1676



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Full Report
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Looks like it is getting itself into a knot with the Google crashpad system. There was one person reporting strangeness with Pro Tools crashes on an M3 as well that might be related, it might even be the software is failing over something as simple as mishandling system information strings (which then might appear to be M3 specific--or might still be something specific to your setup... would be good to know if others have it working on similar setups). Hopefully Eddie can help here, if this is not already a known thing... would be good to get this into Avid support, without the usual "well it's not supported" insults from support.

Who knows if the later issues are related or not. Is anything logged then? /Users/username/Library/Logs/Avid/EuCon.
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Cheers Darryl

I'm unaware of 'Google Crashpad system' but I'll investigate.

And yes, completely aware of it not being supported, and I thank you for not berating me for it.

EDIT - I should've said, when Eucontrol does run, on the second attempt every time, it won't allow me to 'Assign' anything, or create anything under 'Layouts'. But everything under 'Surface', 'Workstations' and 'Applications', is as it should be.
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I did not mean you should look at Crashpad, it’s a Google crash reporting utility that Avid includes in products like here, where it is getting its panties/jockstrap in knots over something. Maybe a very quick debug for an Avid developer who is familiar with their crashpad use. The question is really for Eddie… is Avid already well aware of this failure of does he want you to report it to support?

If this was my system I would still have a look at the logs just to see if there are any clues, but may not be worth your time…

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Can you try this. With EuContol running, hold Control and right click on the EuControl Icon in the top bar. Check Disable crash reporting. See if that fixes it?
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Old 12-09-2023, 09:13 AM
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Hi Eddie, thanks for joining in on this.

I've disabled crash reporting and it stops the initial crash, so EuControl now stays running. Thanks

But it still doesn't link to the session I'm running, allow me to assign anything, or import previous layouts that I've saved for these sessions (all greyed out on that page). So no S3 connection, although it still shows it in the Surfaces window and says it's claimed by the Mac I'm using.

'Workstation' says it's 'attached' also.

'Assign' shows the 16 channels on the S3, but doesn't allow me to assign any channel to each fader, only Auto, Attention and Blank.

I've un-installed and re-installed 'EUCON Workstation Unified Install 2023.11', 4 or 5 times now, as I'd seen someone else was having issues and that solved it, but no joy here yet.
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Old 12-09-2023, 09:33 AM
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UPDATE...... Success

Having put Protools and Eucontrol in and out of launching with rosetta (needed for 1 plugin) a number of times, I tried all 3 combinations one more time and success.

PT and Eucontrol in Rosetta, restart.... magic!!!!

Thanks Darryl and thanks Eddie for your time.... now back to work.
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UPDATE...... Success

Having put Protools and Eucontrol in and out of launching with rosetta (needed for 1 plugin) a number of times, I tried all 3 combinations one more time and success.

PT and Eucontrol in Rosetta, restart.... magic!!!!

Thanks Darryl and thanks Eddie for your time.... now back to work.
Pretty sure you don't need EuControl running in Rossetta, only PT for that plugin.
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